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Irwin Citation 34
A mainstream coastal cruiser from an economy builder still managing to survive..
Irwin Yachts has been in operation for 27 years, one of the true old-timers in the fiberglass sail boat business. When we talked to them regarding the Irwin 34, they had just weathered the roughest storm of their history, having settled with their creditors and recovered from Chapter 11, when many other companies in similar situations were folding.
Irwin’s recovery was marked by the start of a new production 50-foot cruiser. The new boat, like all the boats throughout the company’s history, was designed by Ted Irwin, who has served continuously as CEO of the company as well as chief designer. In this respect, Irwin is like Catalina Yachts, whose CEO and chief designer Frank Butler is second only to Irwin in business longevity.
Like Catalina, Irwin has generally aimed at the economy end of the sailboat spectrum. However, unlike Catalina, Irwin Yachts has built a great variety of sailboats, 47 different models before their latest 50-footer—all sailboats, all larger than 20′, from all-out race machines to full-tilt cruisers. Among American companies, only Pearson comes close to Irwin in the variety of cruising sailboats produced over the last quarter of a century.
The Irwin 34 is in many respects a typical Irwin boat. It was originally called the “Citation 34,” which was meant to indicate that it was more of a plush cruiser than the race-oriented Irwins at the time, but more of a racer than the larger cruisers.
According to the company, 305 Irwin 34s were built in the production run, from 1978 to 1985, a moderate but successful model for the era. Near the end of its production, the boat was advertised as the Irwin 34 rather than the Citation 34. There were no major changes in the boat from beginning to end, just the details and equipment that are typical of any long production run.
Owners report mixed feelings in dealing with the company. Irwin dealers got good marks, though there are a few complaints about “incompetents and crooks.” The main objection over the years has been about slow response from the company, especially regarding warranty claims on new boats and getting basic information on older models. However, long term owners report that the company seems to have ups and downs in customer service.
Design and Construction
In design, the 34 looks like a cross between the old 1960s beamy CCA centerboarder and the mid-70s IOR racer, a combination that results in a moderate design and hence a healthy coastal cruiser. The bow has a distinctive concave curve, typical of many Irwin designs, and a flattish sheer, with a molded-in cove stripe to make the sheerline appear a bit higher in the bow. The stern sections have the peculiar tuckup typical of IOR boats of the era. The trunk cabin is traditional looking and fairly low. Overall, we think the boat is an attractive example of the modern racercruiser.
Underwater, the hull is beamy and saucer shaped. The centerline of the hull aft of the keel forms a shallow fence which runs back to form a skeg in front of the spade rudder. Though the boat was available with a deep fin keel, drawing 5′ 4″, the centerboard model was far more popular. Company literatureadvertises a shoal draft keel as standard, with the fin and centerboard as options, but we have never seen a shoal-draft model and none of the owners in our surveys had the shoal-draft version. Brochures show the shallow-draft keel as identical in outline to the centerboard model but with no board installed.
The centerboard lifts into a shallow stub keel, and the pennant is a Dacron rope; it runs to the deck through a tube which forms a grab rail at the front edge of the galley. We examined three used 34s, and the two centerboard models each had badly chafed centerboard pennants needing replacement.
Other than the chafe problem, the centerboard version of the boat is probably to be preferred if you have a choice. Unlike some boats which are designed for a fin and compromised with a centerboard, the hull shape looks well matched to the board, and few designers have as much experience with centerboards as Ted Irwin.
The hull is a conventional lay-up of mat and woven roving. The deck is a conventional balsa core sandwich.
The three boats we examined all had decent gelcoat and exterior finish, but owners in our surveys report an inordinate incidence of gelcoat problems, including patches coming off, large voids, and excessive crazing. One boat we looked at had quite a few repaired spots in the deck molding, and we suspect most of the gelcoat problems were new boat problems. Once fixed, they should not be a major concern for the used boat buyer.
With regard to other elements of construction, quality is on the poor side. In fact, the three boats we examined were serious contenders in our own used-boat search but were finally rejected because we didn’t like many details of the way the boats were built. For example, two of the boats we looked at clearly had a history of deck leaks at the portlights and a variety of fittings. The interior is generally well finished with teak-faced plywood and an interior liner, but the ceiling and liner made it very difficult to get at the inside of the hull and deck to trace or fix the leaks. It was clear that the previous owners had little luck in stopping the leaks. Further, the hull-to-deck joint is fastened with sheet metal screws rather than bolts. The screws are installed both vertically, from the top of the aluminum toe rail, and horizontally, from the side of the toe rail. Through-bolting is preferable.
More importantly, on the boat we were most interested in, it was evident that the hull-to-deck joint was leaking, at best a nuisance, at worst a major repair job. Though we couldn’t examine most of the joint because of the interior joinerwork, we did find one spot where the deck molding actually did not overlap the hull flange. You could see the underside of the toerail from inside the boat.
On one boat, the deck cleats were fastened only with sheet metal screws, and on all the boats, the bow and stern pulpits were only screwed down rather than through-bolted.
There were several details—cheap through-hull valves, no washers on chainplate bolts—which were relatively easy to correct, but they put us off the boat. Obviously, Irwin believes these construction details are adequate, but we consider them very minimal or problematic—something we would feel compelled to correct.
In contrast to the details, the basic fiberglass work seemed solid and good on all the boats we examined.
The interior of the 34 is generally well done, good production-line work with teak veneer and plastic. Some of the details of the cabinetry were a little sloppy on the boats we examined, but all in all the interior of the boat, when new, was undoubtedly a strong selling point.
There are three good berths—a V-berth double and a quarter berth. The quarter berth will be just a little tight, especially at the foot, for a large, tall man. The settee is usable as a single berth (it’s a very comfortable settee), and the dinette opposite is convertible to a small double. The head is of good size, and the galley is well arranged in a sort of wraparound U. There’s a good electrical panel at the aft side of the galley. The nav station is set at an angle, with the table a bit small though adequate.
The Irwin 34 came with seven opening ports as well as forward and midship hatches, so ventilation should be good.
Stowage below is minimal, since tankage occupies space below the berths—a shortcoming of the modern hull shape. Tankage is adequate on the boat—30 gallons fuel, 80 gallons water, and a big holding tank for the head—a rarity on production boats of this size.
There’s little bilge in the boat, which can cause problems when you take water inside the hull. This showed up in the discolored and delaminated teak/holly plywood on the cabin sole of two of the boats at which we looked.
Original standard equipment is quite complete and modern—hot/cold pressure water, shower, propane stove, 4″ cushions, AC and DC electrical systems, and so on, meaning that little upgrading should be necessary, assuming the boat has been well kept.
Overall, the interior seems very desirable for a couple cruising or a couple with one or two children. There are no privacy doors for the forward cabin, so two couples will have to be (or become) intimate while cruising.
The deck is conventional but well done for working the boat. There’s a deck-opening anchor locker forward, wide side decks, and a good big cockpit with a small ice/beer locker, two lazarettes, and a propane tank locker.
A wheel was standard on the boat. A nice feature is that a portion of the cockpit sole is removable for superior engine access, the best we have seen on a boat this size. Cockpit drains are also large, another rarity on production boats.
The companionway opening is large, with just a small lip/step above the cockpit sole. While not desirable in an offshore boat, this is okay in a coastal cruiser and makes for easy access to the interior. Most owners will want to arrange a way to secure the lowest companionway drop board, so it can be left in place during rough conditions.
The mainsheet traveler is on the cabin top, just ahead of the companionway. While this is a convenient location, the boats we looked at had exceptionally unsightly dodgers because the multi-part mainsheet was somewhat in the way.
Performance
The boat came with a Yanmar 15, which generally gets good reports from owners, though some think the boat is a bit underpowered. A 20-hp Yanmar was available as an option, and this would be desirable if a buyer were choosing between otherwise similar boats; the 20-hp model would be smoother running as well as more powerful.
The boat we sailed handled adequately under power, though some owners report it difficult to back up straight. Most of the 34s had solid props, and the performance-oriented sailor will want to upgrade to a folding or feathering prop so the boat’s sailing ability isn’t hurt.
The boat has a big rig, well balanced between mainsail and jib, and as you can expect from Ted Irwin’s design board, it is a good sailing boat. With a PHRF rating around 160, it is slightly slower than other cruiser/racers of that era, like the C & C 34, but it will make good passages, especially off the wind.
Many owners report that they consider the boat quite tender, especially the centerboard model, but we found the boat to be reasonably stiff, with lots of initial stability from the beamy hull. We didn’t sail the boat in heavy air, but we suspect an early reef would be desirable. Cruisers will find that it works well to sail the boat under roller-furling jib alone.
Early boats may have the DynaFurl roller which came as an option from Irwin, and buyers may want to factor in a replacement in their price figuring. The boats are generally of an age where the original sails are still aboard and, for all practical purposes, best used as drop cloths. Though the boat was advertised as a “club racer,” we saw no used 34s with spinnakers or any spinnaker gear, so a chute and related gear may also have to be purchased to complete a sail inventory.
Standard winches on the boat were minimal, and an upgrade will be desirable if the original owner didn’t buy the optional package when the boat was new.
The rig is adequate, the only problem reported by owners being paint problems on the mast, perhaps from a poor priming job on the aluminum. The mast of one boat we looked at had been re-painted.
Conclusions
It is an excellent design, a wholesome all-around racer/cruiser with shallow draft that would serve a family’s needs as a coastal cruiser, at a reasonable cost.
Unfortunately, the Irwin 34 suffers from some corner-cutting: details of construction which are cheap or shoddy, such as using only screws to secure the hull-to-deck joint.
Realistically, those details should not hamper the boat’s use in normal conditions as a coastal cruiser, but are substandard compared to many other boats available. We generally would not recommend the boat to anyone contemplating ocean passages, unless considerable basic upgrading had been completed.
But for a coastal cruiser, for an owner who likes to do some upgrading, the boat is a handsome, well thought-out design, with a good interior, well equipped. In today’s market, it offers a lot of basic boat, especially if bought at the right price.
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Review of Irwin Citation 35
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The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 1.40 - 1.50 meter (4.59 - 4.89 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.2 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Irwin Citation 35 is about 202 kg/cm, alternatively 1131 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 202 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1131 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
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| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Mainsail halyard | 32.5 m | (106.8 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Jib/genoa halyard | 32.5 m | (106.8 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Spinnaker halyard | 32.5 m | (106.8 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Jib sheet | 10.8 m | (35.4 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 10.8 m | (35.4 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 27.0 m | (88.5 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 23.7 m | (77.9 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
| Cunningham | 4.0 m | (13.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Kickingstrap | 7.9 m | (26.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Clew-outhaul | 7.9 m | (26.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
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Irwin 35 citation
The irwin 35 citation is a 35.42ft masthead sloop designed by ted irwin and built in fiberglass by irwin yachts since 1986..
The Irwin 35 citation is a moderate weight sailboat which is a good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
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| Model | Irwin 35 citation | ||
| Length | 35.42 ft | ||
| Beam | 11.46 ft | ||
| Draft | 6.50 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 18.69 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 45.22 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 220.85 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 22.56 | ||
| Capsize | 2.03 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with spade rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 28.54 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 6.50 ft | ||
| Displacement | 11500 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 5200 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 7.16 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 593 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 326.60 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 266.50 sq.ft | ||
| I | 46 ft | ||
| J | 14.20 ft | ||
| P | 41 ft | ||
| E | 13 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
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| Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
| Headroom | 0 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
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| Builder | Irwin Yachts | ||
| Designer | Ted Irwin | ||
| First built | 1986 | ||
| Last built | 0 | ?? | |
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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35' Irwin Yachts Citation Sloop
Stock #366402 - Irwin beauty with lots of upgrades and has been maintained A well designed and built sloop, the Irwin 35 Citation is typical of the 80's era coastal cruiser, spacious, simple and reliable, with good performance and accommodations. A good sized cockpit fits a crew of four to six, the dodger and bimini provide good protection from the elements and access to the foredeck easy. This particular boat has been well rigged for single handed piloting, all lines to the cockpit and an electric winch for ease of the haul. The pedestal helm has compass and wind instruments, engine controls and a wheel driven autopilot. Down below the configuration is typical for the size, galley and aft double berth cabin with privacy door to port, enclosed head and nav station starboard, large U-settee to port with bench abeam, followed by forward berth. The galley has a double sink, large ice chest and gimbaled propane stove and oven, and for the surveyors and insurance carriers the boat has a proper propane tank storage locker. So, basically a straightforward and proven design well implemented by a good builder, nobody ever got fired or embarrassed because they chose to go with an Irwin boat. We are looking for people all over the country who share our love for boats. If you have a passion for our product and like the idea of working from home, please visit Careeers [dot] PopSells [dot] com to learn more. Please submit any and ALL offers - your offer may be accepted! Submit your offer today! Reason for selling is getting out of boating. At Pop Yachts, we will always provide you with a TRUE representation of every vessel we market. We encourage all buyers to schedule a survey for an independent analysis. Any offer to purchase is ALWAYS subject to satisfactory survey results. You have questions? We have answers. Call us at (941) 538-7803 to discuss this boat. Selling your boat has never been easier. At Pop Yachts, we literally sell thousands of units every year all over the country. Call (855) 218-2805 and we'll get started selling your boat today. Take a look at ALL ***98 PICTURES*** of this vessel on our main website at POPYACHTS DOT COM. We appreciate that you took your time to look at our advertisement and we look forward to speaking with you!
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Condition The photos are as of 9/2023 and tell the story, the vessel is in typical configuration and condition for the age, main serviceable, genoa only two years old, sail cover, dodger and bimini in very good condition, engine runs well and everything works, according to the owner. Cabin sole aft around base of steps has soft areas, evidence of rot. Navigational Equipment - Autopilot (Raymarine) - Compass - Masthead Light: - Navigation Lights - Separate Depth Sounder - VHF (2) - VHF Antenna - Wind Instruments Mechanical - Bilge Blower - Bilge Pump - Closed Water Cooling Sys. - Holding Tank - Rudder - Throttle/shift: Mech - Water Tank Electrical Systems - 110v AC Outlets - 12 V DC Outlets - AC / DC Electric Panel - Battery Switch - Battery Tender - Hour Meter - Spreader Lights - Stereo - Tachometer - Volt Meter - Water Heater Accommodations - Cabin Lighting - Cabinets - Dinette (Convertible) - Hanging Locker - Head - Ice Box - Port Holes - Pressurized Water System - Sink - Galley - Stateroom - Forward - Stove / Oven (Propane) - V Berth Construction - Bottom Paint Antifouling Deck Gear - Anchor (Bruce) - Anchor Roller - Anchor Rode - Bimini - Cleats - Fixed - Cockpit Seating - Cockpit Table - Davits - Swim Ladder ( Stern ) - Transom Seating - Transom Shower - Transom Storage Boxes - Windlass Safety Equipment - Grab Rails - Life Lines - Propane Storage Locker Sails - Covers - Sail - Dodger - Genoa - Main Sail (Full Batten) - Roller Furling Jib Rigging - Backstay - Blocks - Boom - Lifelines - Mast - Running Rigging - Sloop Rig - Standing Rigging - Traveler - Winches - Electric (1) - Winches - Manual (3)
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I''m interested in a coastal cruiser for North Carolina''s Pamlico Sound. I cruise with my wife and often another couple. We take weekend cruises and about twice each year we cruise for a full week to ten days. We are accustomed to an older C30 and it does quite well, but we''re ready for a bit more room. I know very little about Irwins and didn''t realize there was a 35''5" version. Insights and opinions are welcomed and needed.
Don''t have an opinion on the Irwin but a 35 footer is still going to be tight for (4) adults. I''d suggest that you look at something in the 38-42 foot range. I''m reminded of what Hooper said to Captain Quinn in Jaws, "I think we''re going to need a bigger boat"
I have an older Irwin and am very happy with it. I cruise Lake Michigan and find my 32 a nice size for two people on a longer cruise - say 4 or 5 weeks. For short weekends w/4 or more it has has been plenty big for us. I often sail with crews of 5 for a week. For some people, a 35 is a small boat, for others it is big. You have to know which you are.
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Irwin Citation 35.5 project boat ?'s
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I'm looking at an Irwin Citation 35.5 project boat. Major concerns, p.o. whacked a rock hard off the keel. Keel to hull is cracked fore and aft and rear of keel appears to be pushed into hull about 1"-2", not broken completely thru (cabin holds water!), but water is leaking out around rear of keel. Interior is trashed. Also, stand poppets have compressed into hull from? yrs on the hard. Is this worth getting into? (impossible question, I know. Just would like thoughts). Any thoughts on the Irwin Citation 35.5 in general and hull strenght and keel attachment in particular? Thanks, Vic H.
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RUN!!!!! Run away fast!!!!!!!! I don't know what your budget is but this boat is going to suck you dry. You would be better off finding a different boat. www.yachtworld.com Check that site out....tons of boats out there. A project boat is only worth it if you can fix it....this boat is ready for the scrap yard!
That bad Huh? Boat is free.
Is the Irwin 35.5 a bad boat in general?
I had an Irwin 35, and i wouldnt buy one again. They are kind of flimsy. I took that one to Bermuda in December from Florida, had the spreader touching the water at one time, water poured into the boat, came through the hull deck joint, everything about the boat was a problem, the engine filled up with water, becuase their was no vent on the exhaust pipe, the wood round the chainplates had rotted away, and we didnt find it until we were way out at sea, the hull is not the thickest around, she was shoa drafted and just would not sail to the wind, the main sheet was forward of the cockpitt and we had to unzip the dodger to operate it, for the size of boat, it had a poor layout, it had great access to the engine, better than any other boat i have seen, but a huge loss in accomodation, and the lazzaret and cockpitt hatches, everything that went in there, just ended up in the one space, next to the engine, as it all just dumped down to where the engine was. Their were no hand holds inside the cabin. It had quite a roomy cockpitt, but in foul weather you couldnt jam yourself in, and had to relly on a harness. It had a roomy forward cabin, and a nice cozy quarter berth, think i paid about 25k for it, sold it for 15k, got it with all the ocean cruising equipment, liferaft, mf/hf radio, epirb, had a hot water heater, had pretty much everything, and that was why i bought it. I would suggest unless you are getting it for next to nothing, dont buy it, its a boat that needs a huge amount of work to make it suitable for offshore cruising, and that is even if its in perfect condition.
AtlanticAl said: I had an Irwin 35, and i wouldnt buy one again. They are kind of flimsy. I took that one to Bermuda in December from Florida, had the spreader touching the water at one time, water poured into the boat, came through the hull deck joint, everything about the boat was a problem, the engine filled up with water, becuase their was no vent on the exhaust pipe, the wood round the chainplates had rotted away, and we didnt find it until we were way out at sea, the hull is not the thickest around, she was shoa drafted and just would not sail to the wind, the main sheet was forward of the cockpitt and we had to unzip the dodger to operate it, for the size of boat, it had a poor layout, it had great access to the engine, better than any other boat i have seen, but a huge loss in accomodation, and the lazzaret and cockpitt hatches, everything that went in there, just ended up in the one space, next to the engine, as it all just dumped down to where the engine was. Their were no hand holds inside the cabin. It had quite a roomy cockpitt, but in foul weather you couldnt jam yourself in, and had to relly on a harness. It had a roomy forward cabin, and a nice cozy quarter berth, think i paid about 25k for it, sold it for 15k, got it with all the ocean cruising equipment, liferaft, mf/hf radio, epirb, had a hot water heater, had pretty much everything, and that was why i bought it. I would suggest unless you are getting it for next to nothing, dont buy it, its a boat that needs a huge amount of work to make it suitable for offshore cruising, and that is even if its in perfect condition. Click to expand
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Having spent two years on the 500 dollar Cal 29 i can assure with those hull issues they need to pay YOU a good 20,000 and that would just about cover the keel repiar as that is a GIANT issue that goes out of DIY stuff
There is no such thing as a free boat. For what you are going to spend on this boat to fix it, parts alone, will cost you more than buying an operational boat. You can find a NICE Catalina 30 for around 25K or less. If the engine isn't working and you need to replace it you are looking at 12K. The keel and hull repairs will be even more. As is it would take a lot of work to get the boat in the water. Keep looking, figure out what you can afford, and move on. There is a better deal out there. This free boat is like one of those scams where they say that you inherited one million dollars but you need to send them five thousand dollars to get it released from the government.
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I agree wholeheartedly with all the above. Run and don't look back. A recycling project on a larger boat is likely to cost two to three times as much as the average purchase price. And that all depends on an intact hull. If it can't float it ain't a boat.
For what it's worth............I own an Irwin and can tell you from experience that if the hull is damaged that severely you couldn't pay me to take it. I love 'em and don't find them to be "timid" as other people do but the hull is their weak point. As long as it's sound and well maintained they are great boats and will last forever. A broken keel is like a horse with a bad leg, we all know how that one ends. "a free boat is worth every penny you paid for it"
I would disagree with what a lot of people commenting say. If the boats free, and you can do the work on her, that it can be a good deal. If howevor, you are not technicaly minded, then forget it. If the boat is not fully equiped, forget it, a new set of saild can be five thousand, i got a secondhand main for the irwin i had, for 1600, it was going to be 3000 new, a winch can cost an easy thousand, but if the keel is the only problem, ou are talking a few hundred in fiberglass gel, and matt, plus, the wood stringers, I would unbolt the keel, drop it, and that is (cant remember rightly) but about five thousand pounds, maybe four or three minimum) then jack the hull back into position, from inside, and outside, then glass it all with tons of glass, thirty dollars a gallon, and you will use easy ten gallons. Plus matt, same amount of money again. Then you have to come up with a way of lowering that keel, then raising it back up, probably easier to build a frame to hold the keel, and raise and lower the boat, with a lot of friends, and several ten ton bottle jacks and a jig built round the boat. Its not like a car, where you can simply attach a ram and push things back into position, you cant push that keel back into position. I think though if you are getting the boat for free, and you have time, and skills, you could do it. If howevor, you have to hire a skilled man to work on that boat, you could very quickly be out thousands. Even taking the mast down, to transpor it, could cost you six hundred for the hire of a crane, that is the only way you will get that mast down, plus a few thousand to move it, so you leave it where its at, and pay a monthly fee, then travel cost to and from to work on it. I would say, if you are carefull, and you have some friends to help you, and you were techincaly minded, and able to follow instructions, you could probably fix the keel for less than five grand. I would say between 3 and 5. Sturcturaly, you can make it stronger than it was when it was built, but you will probably never get the angles right, keel will be slightly off, how much difference that will make, i dont know. Either way, its a big job, and it will take a lot of time and money, and as someone else said, take the boat, part it out, then take the rest to the recylers, i dont know if the keel is lead or cast, but either way, you will get quite a few bucks for it. All the fittings alone, ebay them, mine had self tailing winches a few hundred each.
AtlanticAl said: I would disagree with what a lot of people commenting say. If the boats free, and you can do the work on her, that it can be a good deal. If howevor, you are not technicaly minded, then forget it. If the boat is not fully equiped, forget it, a new set of saild can be five thousand, i got a secondhand main for the irwin i had, for 1600, it was going to be 3000 new, a winch can cost an easy thousand, but if the keel is the only problem, ou are talking a few hundred in fiberglass gel, and matt, plus, the wood stringers, I would unbolt the keel, drop it, and that is (cant remember rightly) but about five thousand pounds, maybe four or three minimum) then jack the hull back into position, from inside, and outside, then glass it all with tons of glass, thirty dollars a gallon, and you will use easy ten gallons. Plus matt, same amount of money again. Then you have to come up with a way of lowering that keel, then raising it back up, probably easier to build a frame to hold the keel, and raise and lower the boat, with a lot of friends, and several ten ton bottle jacks and a jig built round the boat. Its not like a car, where you can simply attach a ram and push things back into position, you cant push that keel back into position. I think though if you are getting the boat for free, and you have time, and skills, you could do it. If howevor, you have to hire a skilled man to work on that boat, you could very quickly be out thousands. Even taking the mast down, to transpor it, could cost you six hundred for the hire of a crane, that is the only way you will get that mast down, plus a few thousand to move it, so you leave it where its at, and pay a monthly fee, then travel cost to and from to work on it. I would say, if you are carefull, and you have some friends to help you, and you were techincaly minded, and able to follow instructions, you could probably fix the keel for less than five grand. I would say between 3 and 5. Sturcturaly, you can make it stronger than it was when it was built, but you will probably never get the angles right, keel will be slightly off, how much difference that will make, i dont know. Either way, its a big job, and it will take a lot of time and money, and as someone else said, take the boat, part it out, then take the rest to the recylers, i dont know if the keel is lead or cast, but either way, you will get quite a few bucks for it. All the fittings alone, ebay them, mine had self tailing winches a few hundred each. Click to expand
Steps to success with this project! 1. Remove all useable hardware and gear 2. Sell them on ebay 3. Remove keel as sell as scrap 4. Cut up hull with sawzall and place in garbage bin 5. Take proceeds and buy a better project boat
Vic H. said: Boat is fully equipped, main & roller furling, lines, halyards, etc. I have done a lot of glass work on smaller boats. I have a friend who owns a boat yard and has a travel lift to lift boat from keel. I looked it over carefully today. I think I will go for it. Worse case is salvage! Thanks, Vic H. Click to expand
I love that the guy asks for advice, then a dozen savvy sailors advise him in multiple straightforward ways to run like Hell, and then he says, "Yeah, I think I'll go for it". I love it because, well, I did the same thing:dance: 15 years ago I found a "great deal" on a 1970 24' Seabird sportfisher. 6 months and $9,000 in paid repairs later, I gave it to my mechanic. The trailer wheels were literally falling off, and the transom came up rotten, among other things. I cut my losses and signed it over. I'm not sure he wanted it, but it had a motor that ran, and he was aware of all the parts I had just paid for in the motor, new fuel tank, steering, hoses, electrical, fiberglass, etc etc etc, so he took the boat. The bright side is that, from doing much myself and also learning from my mechanic, this was how I was forced to learn about boats. Everything....about boats.
Skipper said: I love that the guy asks for advice, then a dozen savvy sailors advise him in multiple straightforward ways to run like Hell, and then he says, "Yeah, I think I'll go for it". I love it because, well, I did the same thing:dance: 15 years ago I found a "great deal" on a 1970 24' Seabird sportfisher. 6 months and $9,000 in paid repairs later, I gave it to my mechanic. The trailer wheels were literally falling off, and the transom came up rotten, among other things. I cut my losses and signed it over. I'm not sure he wanted it, but it had a motor that ran, and he was aware of all the parts I had just paid for in the motor, new fuel tank, steering, hoses, electrical, fiberglass, etc etc etc, so he took the boat. The bright side is that, from doing much myself and also learning from my mechanic, this was how I was forced to learn about boats. Everything....about boats. Click to expand
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- Boat REF# · 55266
- Length · 10.67m
- Year · 1986
- Construction · GRP
- Underwater profile · Fin
- Sleeping berths · 7
- Engine · 1 x diesel 24hp, Yanmar 3GM 30 ()
- Lying · Sarasota
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| Designer | Ted Irwin | Builder | Irwin Yachts | Lying | Sarasota | Fuel capacity | 136.4 ltr (30.0 USG) Total - 1 Tanks | Water capacity | 1,363.5 ltr (300.0 USG) Total - 3 Tanks | Holding tank capacity | 68.2 ltr (15.0 USG) Total - 1 Tanks |
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| Engine | 1 x diesel 24hp | Engine make and model | Yanmar 3GM 30 () | Engine Hours | Not Recorded | Engine Cooled | Direct | Steering | wheel | Drive | shaft | Prop(s) | 3 blade fixed | Fuel consumption (approx) | 1.8 ltr (0.4 USG) /hour At Cruising Speed | Cruising speed (approx) | 5 knots | Max speed (approx) | 8 knots |
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| Length | 10.67m | LWL | 8.69m | Beam | 3.51m | Draft Max | 1.42m | Displacement | 5,215kg (11,500.0lbs) | Headroom | 1.98m | Storage | On marina |
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Sloop rigged Irwin Yachts Aluminium spars (1986) with Stainless Steel standing rigging (1986)
| Reefing mainsail | - Slab (1986) | Headsail | - Furling (1986) |
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Rig is designed to allow for close hauled performance with double spreaders and chainplates mounted through deck, makes her a high performance racer/cruiser.
Electrical Systems
12 volt battery, 3 batteries charged by: engine, shore power
Construction
| Construction | GRP | Underwater profile | Fin | Finish | Paint finish |
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GRP construction with reinforced fiberlgass. Built tougher upon the return of Ted Irwin to assure the boats were built to his specifications.
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Accommodation
| Total # of berths | 7 | No. of double berths | 3 | No. of single berths | 1 | Cabin(s) | 3 | Sink | 1 | Shower | 1 | Air conditioning | 1 Air conditioning Units rated at 8000 BTU/h | Heads | 1 heads (Manual) |
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Spacious and open plan. The interior decks are made of polished woodwork and well maintained. Large head well lit and fit for comfortable cruising or racing. Cushions need some attention but all else on board are in great shape.
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2 burner propane Stove
| Stove | Broiler | Oven | Sink | Cooler | Refrigerator | Carpet | Air conditioning | Pressurised water system | Hot water system | Non-Smokers |
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| Sail cover | Rode | Fenders | Boathook | Bimini |
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2 halyard winches 2 sheet winches 1 anchors (Danforth) 3.66m of chain 45.72m of rode Great convertible seat to pass through the transom to and from the water.
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Nav Equipment
| Compass | VHF | GPS | Chart plotter | Stereo | Clock | Barometer | Navigation lights | TV |
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Safety Equipment
| Searchlight | Swim ladder |
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2 bilge pumps (1 manual / 1 electric)
Broker's Comments
This is a great live-aboard or possibly your next excellent club racer, equally at home on the race course as it is on your favorite cruising grounds!
A fast rig and a comfortable cabin below. Ample cockpit space for the crew and for relaxing after the cruise or the race. The galley has a deep, full sized sink and all you need to prepare great meals on board.
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Boats from designer/builder Ted Irwin were offered under any number of Corporate names, since, the company found itself in bankruptcy any number of times. Despite this fact, it was one of the largest sailboat producers in the US. Irwin himself, had an interest in racing and a number of boats he built were sucessful in that realm. Irwin also built many models specifically for the Caribean charter boat trade. The Irwin 42, 52, and 65 were among the most popular. The best information on anything to do with the builder, designer, and the long list of boats built by the firm can be found at the excellent Irwin Yachts website listed above. Owners manuals for some of most popular models can be purchased on line.
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Irwin 35 Citation is a 35′ 5″ / 10.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Ted Irwin and built by Irwin Yachts starting in 1986. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session.
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4'8'. Illinois. $34,900. Description: Fresh water cruiser. Bought it in 1994 Lots of new sails. V berth forward w/ filler & plenty of storage, hanging locker, dresser with drawers, and seating. Salon table coverts into a double berth, and starboard settee into a single. Nav station has swing-out seat.
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1986 35.25' Irwin Citation 35 sailboat for sale in New Bern North Carolina
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Insights and opinions are welcomed and needed. Don''t have an opinion on the Irwin but a 35 footer is still going to be tight for (4) adults. I''d suggest that you look at something in the 38-42 foot range. I''m reminded of what Hooper said to Captain Quinn in Jaws, "I think we''re going to need a bigger boat".
Jan 15, 2012. #1. I'm looking at an Irwin Citation 35.5 project boat. Major concerns, p.o. whacked a rock hard off the keel. Keel to hull is cracked fore and aft and rear of keel appears to be pushed into hull about 1"-2", not broken completely thru (cabin holds water!), but water is leaking out around rear of keel. Interior is trashed.
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