27 foot o'day sailboat

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O’Day Day Sailer

A proven performer for 61 years

From Issue   Small Boats Annual 2020 July 2019

T he production of small boats was booming in the 1950s on both sides of the Atlantic, and really took off in the late ’50s with the introduction of fiberglass. Famed designers Uffa Fox and George O’Day teamed up in 1956 to create the O’Day Day Sailer. Fox is credited with introducing the technique of planing to dinghy racing and designed many significant classes of boats, including the International 14. The story goes that Fox wanted a pure racing dinghy but O’Day wanted the small cuddy added to increase appeal to the recreational market in the U.S., so Fox designed the planing hull and O’Day designed the cuddy. The resulting Day Sailer was a 16’9” centerboarder with a displacement of 575 lbs, which makes for a light load to tow behind the family car. The fractional sloop rig includes a generously sized spinnaker for exciting downwind sailing.

The first Day Sailer was sold in 1958 and immediately became popular in the recreational and racing markets. It was later designated as the Day Sailer I as four different models have since been built, with over 10,000 boats hitting the waterways. Day Sailer (DS) models I through III have been built by eight different manufacturers, with the current Day Sailer being a modified DS I with a few DS II attributes, such as the internal foam flotation and cuddy thwart. The original DS models I, II, and III were built from 1957 to 1990 by the O’Day Company in Fall River, Massachusetts. The DS I and modified versions of it were later built by Can-AM Sailcraft, Rebel, Spindrift, Precision, McLaughlin, Sunfish/Laser Inc. The current builder of the DS I+ is the Cape Cod Shipbuilding Company (CCSC) in Wareham, Massachusetts, holder of the exclusive license since 1994. The Day Sailer Class Association owns the molds that are currently used by CCSC.

The long side benches in the cockpit provide uncrowded seating for six. The sole is above the waterline and is self-bailing.

The early DS I can be identified by wooden thwarts, seats, and cockpit sole, a centerboard lever, open cuddy, and a transom deck. The DS II came out in 1971 with built-in foam flotation. The cuddy opening is smaller than the opening on the DS I because it also acts as a thwart, and a thinner transom allows mounting a small outboard motor without the need for a bracket. The Day Sailer I and II are considered class legal for one design racing, but the DS III is not considered race-legal due to higher freeboard on the transom, which was a departure from Fox’s hull design. O’Day built the III from 1985 to 1990, so to race in One Design regattas it is important to buy a DS I or DS II. The current Day Sailer in production is a modified version of the DS I with improved self-rescuing capabilities, two sealed air tanks, and a cuddy flotation tank with a smaller hatch.

The Day Sailer, no matter which model, is a very versatile boat, easy to rig, sail, transport, and store. With the mast down the boat and trailer take up just a few feet more than an average family car, so can be stored in most garages, though the mast may need to be stowed diagonally. At the ramp, the Day Sailer can be rigged in under 30 minutes: step the mast, add the boom, bend on the jib and main, clip the pop-up rudder onto the transom, and sort out the sheets.

Stepping the mast is the biggest challenge. The 23′4″-long racing mast is stepped through the top of the cabin onto the maststep fixed to the floor of the cuddy, and that can be tricky for one person. The mast does not weigh much, but it is helpful to have a helper at the foot of the mast to guide it into the cuddy opening. The good news with this arrangement is that once the mast is stepped, it is secure, and there’s no rush to attach the forestay.

A mast hinge, a popular option, makes raising the mast much easier.

About 75 percent of the new boats are delivered with a hinged mast, eliminating the awkward gymnastics of stabbing the mast through the cuddy. Once the mast is raised and the forward hole on the hinge pinned, securing the forestay to the bow fitting takes the strain off the hinge. Side stays can then be tightened to take out the slack, but no more than hand tight. Stays that are too tight can damage the hull. Tighten the nuts on the turnbuckles and tape over any cotter pins.

There are different sheeting arrangements for the boom. Some boats have sheets attached in the middle of the boom; the sheet on a DS II starts from a traveler on the transom and ends forward on a swivel cam cleat mounted to the centerboard case. The DS II boom also has a spring in the gooseneck that allowed for roller furling— disconnect the sheet, pull the boom aft, and roll the sail onto the boom. A reefing claw has to be added to connect the sheet to the sail-wrapped boom, but this design is not optimum, nor is the wad of rolled-up sail by the boom’s gooseneck. A better arrangement is to add a conventional set of reefpoints to the mainsail. The boom also has a vang to improve sail control.

The 6′ 3″ beam gives the Day Sailer good stability, enough to keep the boat under someone standing on the foredeck.

The jib on the racing version of the DS is a standard affair, attached with hanks onto the forestay and raised with a halyard. Some skippers add a downhaul to lower the jib from the cockpit. Both the main and jib halyards are led aft on the top of the cuddy. The recreational version of the new DS I comes with a roller-furling jib, which we consider essential for sailing dinghies, especially if singlehanding. We have added a roller-furling jib to our DS II along with the mast hinge. We also added the hardware and rigging for a spinnaker, halyard, spinnaker pole, spinnaker pole control lines, sheet blocks, and jam cleats.

T he Day Sailer is a treat to sail; it handles well, tacks with ease, and powers up quickly with its large sail area. The planing hull is responsive to the tiller, and the wide beam makes it stable. The boat will roll quickly but then sets on a tack, holding it with stable and positive helm control. The centerboard can be easily adjusted from amidships.

We sail a Drascombe Lugger and a Sunfish; the Lugger drives like the family sedan and the Sunfish like our Mustang. The Day Sailer handling is closer to that of the Sunfish—when the breeze picks up, the mainsheet needs to be held in the hand and someone should be ready on the jibsheets. The jibsheets run through the coaming on the DS I and through small cars on the DS II. For the highest performance, skippers have added tiller extensions and hiking straps. There is an outhaul on the battened main; racing versions have barber-haulers and travelers added. Pop the spinnaker, and it will scoot along quite nicely in a light breeze.

The Day Sailer carries 100 sq ft in the main, 45 sq ft in the jib and, for sailing off the wind, another 95 sq ft in spinnaker.

The Day Sailer’s 7′ 4″-long cockpit provides plenty of room for three adults, or two adults and two kids. With four adults it gets cozy; there is not much moving around, so whoever is sitting next to the tiller or foredeck needs to know what to do. It is easy to depower the main, reef it, or furl the jib as needed.

The cuddy is spacious for storing picnic or camping gear, and it affords a space equivalent to a two-person backpacker tent for sleeping aboard for overnight cruising. Adding a topping lift makes the boom nice ridgepole for a boom tent; there’s plenty of room to sleep in the uncluttered cockpit. The Day Sailer has completed many endurance cruising events, such as the Texas 200, Florida 120, and the Everglades Challenge.

A small kicker can be added for auxiliary power. We have used both an electric trolling motor and gas outboard, with best results coming from a 2-1/2-hp four-stroke that pushed push the boat to 6 knots at one-third throttle. The DS I will require a bracket to support and outboard; the DS II transom is thin and sturdy enough for a direct mount. If we’re not going far from home, we occasionally skip the outboard and carry a paddle; with her low coaming we have paddled her a bit, even backward over the transom.

The transom of the Day Sailer II will accommodate an outboard for auxiliary power. The Day Sailer I will require a bracket.

D ay Sailers are easy to find and inexpensive, considering their capabilities. If you come across one, there are few important things to check. Make sure the centerboard moves in the trunk, see that the forestay tang and bow seam are not pulled up, inspect the cuddy deck for noticeable depression which would indicate failure of the maststep under the cuddy floor, and if it is a DS II look inside the flotation compartments. Rinse her off and get her ready to sail. There is a great Day Sailer Association with a web-based forum, and excellent parts availability.

Audrey and Kent Lewis enjoy time with CYANE, along with their small fleet of kayaks, canoe, sailboats, and lapstrake runabout. They blog about their adventures on smallboatrestoration.blogspot.com

Day Sailer Particulars

Length:   16′ 9″ Beam:   6′ 3″ Draft, board up:   9″ Draft, board down:   3′ 9″ Displacement:   575 lbs Sail area Main:   100 sq ft Jib:   45 sq ft Spinnaker:   96 sq ft

The Day Sailer is built by Cape Cod Shipbuilding Company . Prices start at $18,335 (less sails). For more information about the Day Sailer Class, visit the Day Sailer Association .

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Great article Kent! I have a sister to your boat, right down to the racing mast and blue hull!! But since we’re moving to the Pacific NW, I’m about to sell it. I’m limiting myself to only 3 boats for the move (and it’s a hard sorting out!!!!). Great write-up about a fantastic boat! Thanks! Charlie

My father was George O’Day. It is nice to know the basic design that my Dad helped create is still vibrant 60 years later. I always find it interesting since Dad was a pure racing sailor that he designed a boat and saw the importance of appealing to the recreational aspect of sailing. He wanted to open the door to the bigger audience to share his passion of sailing.

I sailed with your father on a Hobie 16 at a Red Cross small craft instructor program. So much fun sailing with a legend.

Charlie we know it’s hard, the Day Sailer is such a timeless boat. If she has to change skippers, find her a good one.

Miss Beth, so wonderful to hear from a family member, it must have been quite an adventure to grow up around boating and racing. That Day Sailer hull was Cap’n Jack’s favorite, we enjoyed looking at it. Thank you for the insight into your family’s history.

Cheers, Skipper and Clark

I’ve had an O’Day for years, my first sailboat. I love sailing her around our little lake.

This boat is the best for a small family. In Brazil it’s a great option.

O’Day DS was my first brand-new boat. I was a “veteran”of maybe six months sailing in the late 1960s and she taught me to love sailing.

Great boat design. I’ve sailed different ones on and off over the years. Still a favorite.

Beth, your father made great boats as my father still has an O’Day 20 he bought new in ’76 and it’s still like new and a great sailing boat!

I recently bought a 1966 model after downsizing from a Viking 28. My father owned a Rhodes 19 and we sailed that boat for years on the western end of Lake Ontario. The design was similar, so the transition to the 16 was easy. I love the boat because even in high winds I can make a simple adjustment to the main with reef points. Solo sailing is fun and safe. I can see why so many were sold.

Hello, I just bought O’day sailboat. I do believe from what I’ve been reading that it’s a Daysailer 1. I was told this boat has never been registered and never had a kicker motor on it, I can’t find the metal tag on the transom but I see the two rivet holes where it should have been. Is there any other place on this boat to find the serial number? I would like to put a kicker on it and register it and, if not, is there a way to register this boat? Thank you for helping

The requirements to register a small boat that has not been registered before is different for each state. In NY, a boat is registered through the DMV. HIN numbers are placed on the right side of the transom. If you do not have one your boat was made prior to 1972.

Thank you for the reply, I’m working on getting a HIN number now.

Check with O’Day. Some manufacturers hide a second HIN onboard. Worth a shot.

My boat has a plate on the inside toward the front of the boat. On the bulkhead (might not be the right term) behind the mast. You’ll have to crawl into the cubby to see it. It’s a little plate 2″ x 4″ and shows Hull no. and Class no. The paperwork I have says the boat was made in 1967. Does anyone know the difference between Hull number and Class number?

Can anyone give me today’s value of a 1960 O’Day Day Sailer, #333, with a small motor that goes on the mount with sails that all sit on a Dilly trailer? It has all the original woodwork that my husband redid. It does not have a spinnaker but has the jib and main and a Proctor mast.

My daughter and I are looking for an older (less expensive) sailboat. Not sure where your at , we are South of Boston. The O’Day is our first choice. If you are going sell, please reply to this comment. Thanks

[I’ll connect sellers to John. Ed.]

16′ O’Day Day Sailor with trailer and motor

2013 DS for sale in Sharon,MA. needs work on floatation tanks

At 30 years old, I just bought my first sailboat which is a 1965 DS I. The boat has sat for a few years and she needed a good power-washing plus painting of the hull and inside the cubby and several new lines. I’m completely inexperienced with sailing (plenty of time cleaning boats, though) and couldn’t be happier to learn on such a beautiful vessel. Thanks for this article! It’s great to get some background info. Plus, plenty of words to highlight as I expand my boating vocab.

Day Sailers are easy to find? I guess you know where to look (certainly no offers in Craigslist). I have not been lucky enough to come across a good one that is 10 to 20 years old. I live in Massachusetts. Would you mind sharing where to look for one?

I have an O’Day day sailer 16.5 ‘ up for the taking. Our family had years of good times sailing and camping with It. Great family boat. Wooden seats and rails. Needs some work. In central Massachusetts

I am assuming you have gotten rid of your O’Day day sailer – if not, I may be interested. I’m new to sailing at 57 years young! I just took lessons at KYC here in Blue Hill, ME and am looking for a great starter boat that I can learn in and have fun on the bay.

Thanks, Kelly

Actually, I just bought a 1989 DS2 from Craigslist, on trailer, for $300. It needs only minor work and a lot of cleaning. I hope to float it Saturday to see if it sinks like a rock (I know it has flotation), and will need glass work, but I could see nothing amiss while on the trailer.

So, never say never.

Hi Laranja, I just read your comment about trying to find a used O’Day Day Sailer. I live in Wareham where Cape Cod Shipbuilding is located, they are the current builders of the Day Sailer. They usually have used boats available. I have a 1971 DS, a wonderful boat.

I have a 2013 DS for sale in Sharon,MA. needs work on floatation tanks

Fantastic article

Interested in purchasing a fine example that was actively sailed

I agree with the many positive comments above. Great article! I was a longtime owner of an O’Day Widgeon (14′), and after many boat-less years I’m pleased to have purchased a 1984 O’Day Daysailer II just last week. It’s in good condition, and after sourcing a few needed part, I’ll enjoy it on lakes here in Georgia. Thanks for the great article, which has served as an orientation of sorts for me as to what to expect when I launch her for her maiden voyage under my ownership. A long-time marketing and sales executive, I’m naming her SAILS CALL!

I just got a DaySailer, thought it was a 67 DS1 but the transom is thick with a box on the port side by the transom so not sure now DSII?

I just today bought and brought home to MA a 1966 O’Day Day Sailer (as shown on the registration from NH), and it has a thick transom with lidded box on the port side. Also has a wide cuddly opening and wooden cowling and thwarts as described above for a DSI.

We’re down sizing from a 53′ Pearson to an O’Day 18 that someone offered us. I have no qualms about the sailing, but the temperature of the water here (Massachusetts to Connecticut) worries me very much, after a lifetime in the tropics. Are these dry boats when sailed conservatively?

I have a 2013 Cape Cod built DS for sale in MA. Needs some work on floatation tanks.

I just sold our Venturer 22 and picked up (rescued) an O’Day 16 DS. A couple weeks in the shop and it looks ready to sail. One question: the roller reefed main (boom) does not “lock in.” I suppose I could jiffy reef it but does anyone have experience with the roller reefing boom? Am I missing a part (the claw) or do I just not get it.

I want to buy an O’Day sail 17′

We have a 1976, 17′ foot O’Day DSll (?) on trailer that we are transferring to another family member. We are trying to figure out the best way to get it from Oregon to New Hampshire. Any ideas out there?

Great article. My only question is we’ve had the 69 O’day Javelin in the family since gramps bought it new but it always seemed too easy to get into trouble with and the one time we turned it over on a very windy day. It was nearly impossible to right back up without a lot of help. So I’m wondering if the DAYSAILER is a much better and more stable boat and more forgivable. There certainly are more of them around too. Thanks, Ed on Long Beach Island at the Jersey shore

Kent/Audrey,

What trailer make and model do you use for your DS?

Thanks, John in VA Beach

Hi all O’Day fans! I’ve been looking for a lightweight, skinny water sailboat that is fairly easy to row AND also has some sort of cabin arraignment, The boat would be used to beachcruise and camp on Florida’s Gulf Coast and in the Keys. I had almost given up on anything with a cabin until I ran across the O’Day 17, I may have found the perfect boat. Now all I need do is find one in my price range and learn how to sail !!! Oh, anyone out there have any experience in the Everglades Challenge? Fair winds and following seas…….

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O''''Day 27'''' Does anyone have negative inputs on the 27'' Oday, as I am looking at one for a first ( salt water) boat. It is a 1978, very clean and well maintained. I would keep it for a few years, than trade up, and wondering about re-sale value hoding as well. Thanks J.C.  

Buy Your O'Day 27' Bought a '79 27' O'Day in July 2007. Absolutely love the boat, as does my wife and my 40-year old sailing son. Big step up from my former O'Day 23'. Sails like a dream--very quick. Nice accommodations for a weekend cruising couple. Yanmar crapped the bed on haul-out day 07, so I repowered with a new, larger (13 HP) 2-lung Yanmar. Runs like a top. Sustained some damange on haul-out day 08 (I'm not going to haul it out next year) and am in process of a complete hull and keel rebuilding--turns out upon scraping and sanding that the boat was extensively damaged somewhere in the last 30 years and not repaired correctly. Yes, despite this information I still love the boat--but I would suggest more than 1 surveyer look your boat over. Our surveryor missed some pretty significant (though well hidden) repair work. For next season I will have a "Brand-new '79 O'Day" with a 1-season new engine. I'm a happy guy. Great family boat, based on informal harbor runs I think it would race well. Very stable and forgiving. Did I say I love the boat?  

Resale? You should pay in the $5.5K - $8K range based on ads I see, so how much can you lose? If you keep it well-maintained, you should get most of it back. Mine I will sail "forever".  

Rebuilt a '77 O 27 in 1999. No need to trade up unless your'e planning some really long trips on the ocean. Boat is comfortable, stable and fairly speedy. The A4 has been replaced with a Yanmar 1GM10 which uses no fuel and sails replaced at Doyle. Inexpensive and great fun.  

I owned and lived on my 1974 27' O'Day for the past five years, I sailed it all the time. It is the only boat I have owned but I can not think of one resaon I would not recommend this boat to others, there does seem to be a agh "attitude" toward O'Days like they are not "real" sailboats. The only ones that could beat me accross the bay were the Yatch Club racers. Go for it - I have one in Pensacola I'm selling - needs some work but it's solid $4500. They are fast and fun to sail!  

Do you have a listing for the 27' you are selling in Pensacola? work needed? thanks, Dan Clearwater  

MaineJC said: Does anyone have negative inputs on the 27'' Oday, as I am looking at one for a first ( salt water) boat. It is a 1978, very clean and well maintained. I would keep it for a few years, than trade up, and wondering about re-sale value hoding as well. Thanks J.C. Click to expand...

Tell Me About Those Zinks Is there some science to placing the zinks on the shaft? And are more than 1 zink recommended and, if so, why?  

From all the info I gathered, and from looking at a lot of boats, it's well built, and can out sail it's competitors of the same era. What I don't like about it is it's cramped interior compared to it's rivals. But what you lose in space you gain in sailing quality. It has a very large cockpit as well.  

eMKay said: What I don't like about it is it's cramped interior compared to it's rivals. But what you lose in space you gain in sailing quality. It has a very large cockpit as well. Click to expand...

To The O'Day Tack: if the zinks are not placed properly this strut can be affected by electrolysis and break as it is less the a half inch wide. it is expensive to fix (Speaking from experience . Please describe how the zinks should be properly placed. Is there some science to this?  

Sold mine 4 years ago I sold mine 4 years ago. I miss it every day! I bought it in Chicago and put it on a trailer and brought it home to MN. The only complaints that I ever had was, the 10 hp motor was under powered. Also with the rudder hanging off of the transom it took a while for the boat to respond to steering after you put it in gear. This made it harder to dock. As far as sailing the boat it was a sweet experience. It was very easy to sail single handed. I'm sorry that I had to sell it before I had the chance to sail it on Lake Superior. DBS  

Dan, That post was 5 years ago. Hopefully the boat sold by now.  

I have a new to me '77 O'day 27 that I'm sailing on Lake Superior. There are quite a few cosmetic issues I plan to address, but other than that, we're quite happy with our purchase. (bought yesterday, sailed only today). I'm only reviving this thread in hopes of continued O'day 27 discussion. We're planning on cruising the south shore of Superior as a couple + 2y/o daughter. non-custom bimini options? factory wiring diagrams? We're in love with the large tall saloon and deep cockpit. Problems will arise I'm sure, but for now this O'day 27 is an impressive entry cruiser. Adam  

deniseO30 said: in or outboard? :worthless: 27s were unique I think. the 28 up to 40 ft are like clones getting larger and larger. Click to expand...

Great link, thanks! new/unused for half the price, much more up my alley.  

I have a1987 27le. I love the boat except. There is always one of them. My engine is a westerbeke 10 2. The timing case cover broke. A very big deal. It broke due to a design flaw. Back to the boat it is a great boat. For the price that I paid I have no complaints. Enjoy your boat. It's a good boat  

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1988 hunter 23 fresh & saltwater cabin daysailor 23' sailboat with trailer, 1973 catalina 27 sloop sailboat 26'9" - running inboard - virginia, project sailboat - 25ft bayliner buccaneer w/ good running 8hp 4stroke nissan, professionally restored sovereign yacht company 24 - custom trailer included, 1995 hunter 23.5 amherst oh - has trailer, catboat sailboat, freedom 25 sailboat, boat,motor and trailer, 1974 o'day 27' boat located in mayfield, ny - no trailer, 1981 o'day 25' boat located in norwalk, ct - no trailer, new listing 1974 pearson 26' boat located in harpwell, me - no trailer, 1973 oday 22' boat located in clinton township, mi - has trailer, 1985 macgregor 25' sloop sailboat sailed last 6 years ago freshwater, 1977 pearson 26' boat located in farmington, ct - no trailer, 1980 aquarius 20' boat located in waretown, nj - has trailer, 1976 c&c 24' boat located in waterloo, ny - no trailer, new listing 1974 ensenada 20' boat located in middleport, ny - has trailer, 1981 j boats j24 (new york, ny), 1970 heleycon 23' boat located in pemberville, oh - no trailer, new listing 1981 hunter 27' boat located in miami, fl - no trailer, 1976 erika 24' boat located in dunnsville, va - has trailer, new listing 1982 mfg catalina 22' boat located in akron, oh - has trailer, new listing 1984 seafarer 22' boat located in chicago, il - no trailer, 1970 mcgregor 21' boat located in truckee, ca - no trailer, 1978 chrysler 27' boat located in south portland, me - no trailer, 1978 spirit 21' boat located in east falmouth, ma - has trailer, 1976 oday 21' boat located in sullivan, nh - has trailer, sun 27 fiberglass sailboat, buying guide: sailboats 20 to 27 feet.

Buying a sailboat is a multi-step process. You must consider what for, where, how often, how long, and by how many people your sailboat will be used in order to find the right sailboat for your needs.

There are five main categories of sailboats:

• Dinghy – Dinghies are small sailboats that are commonly less than 15 feet long and usually around 8 feet and are often used to teach the basics of sailing.
• Mono-hull – Sailboats with one hull that range from 10 to more than 100 feet in length are known as mono-hull sailboats.
• Multi-hull – Sailboats with two hulls are called catamarans, and trimarans have three hulls. Both vary in size from small to massive and are increasingly popular because of their stability and plentiful living areas available on larger multi-hulls.
• Motor sailer – Commonly 35 feet or larger, motorsailers feature extravagant accommodations and engines onboard. Sailing speed is reduced due to the engine and gas weight.
• Cruising or racing sailboats – Both of these are meant for extended voyages and feature living space. Because racing sailboats are built for speed, they include minimal accommodations to keep the weight of the boat down. Cruising boats offer more living space with standing headroom below deck on boats of 26 feet or more.

See the following list of things to consider when buying an affordable sailboat:

• Where you’ll be sailing – Do you need a new or used sailboat suited for shallow or deep waters? Will the sailboat set sail via a boatyard or need to be hitched to a trailer?
• Type of use – Will your sailboat be used for short day trips, weekend adventures, or longer voyages? Make sure the bunk, bathroom/shower, and cooking area accommodations meet your needs.
• New or used – When buying a new sailboat you pay for the convenience of saving time and money on immediate repairs. However, buying a used sailboat is often more affordable. You can find a variety of reasonably priced used sailboats on eBay.

You can buy almost anything on eBay, including sailboats made by reputable and popular brands. You can find the following well-known and reputable brands of sailboats on eBay:

• Catalina – This US boat-building company is one of the largest in the world. They are best known for their mid-size cruising sailboats and specialize in building mono-hull sailboats from 8 to 47 feet long, using fiberglass. Used Catalina brand sailboats are available on eBay at competitive prices.
• Hunter – Used sailboats by this American boat builder’s brand are available on eBay at fairly inexpensive prices.
• J/22 – This is a popular brand of international racing sailboats that manufactures one fixed-keel design sailboat that is widely used for sailboat racing teams of three to four individuals.
• MacGregor – There are a variety of sizes and styles of these American-made cruising sailboats for sale on eBay.
• O’ Day – Used O’ Day sailboats, created by world champion American Olympic sailor George O’ Day, are available on eBay.