Review of Halman 20
Basic specs..
The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.
The Halman 20 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space.
The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.86 - 0.96 meter (2.82 - 3.12 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?
The capsize screening value for Halman 20 is 2.28, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.5 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Halman 20 is about 82 kg/cm, alternatively 461 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 82 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 461 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
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What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?
What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?
What is a Ballast Ratio?
What is Displacement Length Ratio?
SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 17.37
Maintenance
When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 8m 2 (86 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.
If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Jib sheet | 6.0 m | (19.7 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 6.0 m | (19.7 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 15.0 m | (49.2 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 13.2 m | (43.3 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
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NORDIC HALMAN 20 Detailed Review
If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of NORDIC HALMAN 20. Built by Halman Manufacturing Co. and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in 1977. It has a hull type of Long keel w/trans. hung rudder and LOA is 6. Its sail area/displacement ratio 15.85. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.
NORDIC HALMAN 20 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about NORDIC HALMAN 20 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.
Boat Information
Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, accomodations, contributions, who builds nordic halman 20.
NORDIC HALMAN 20 is built by Halman Manufacturing Co..
When was NORDIC HALMAN 20 first built?
NORDIC HALMAN 20 was first built in 1977.
How long is NORDIC HALMAN 20?
NORDIC HALMAN 20 is 5.03 m in length.
What is mast height on NORDIC HALMAN 20?
NORDIC HALMAN 20 has a mast height of 6.74 m.
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Dialing in a Halman 20 in San Carlos
I had the vast pleasure of sailing a Halman 20 the other day here in San Carlos. The boat came with a house purchase and I helped the new owner get the boat a bit sorted out. Halman Manufacturing Company built boats from 1978 to 1997 based out of Ontario Canada. The boats are serious little affairs and it would seem to me built to take the punishment that the great lakes can dish out to any would be sailor. Halman built 7 different models according to Sailboat Data . The boat I sailed here in San Carlos seemed as sold as a rock and had very decent performance for something so small. Even though the boat was only 20 feet long it has a slightly bigger feel to it. There was an enormous amount of space on the foredeck and it was remarkably easy to walk up there on such a small vessel. The interior was spacious and decent head room considering the size of the boat. Here is another interesting site on Halman 20’s. Apparently there are virtually no owners manuals for these boats but if you go to this link you might be able find one . This previous link has some great stories on Halman boats with one even ending up in Australia!
The following is cut and pasted from the link above:
Halman 20 Owners – Check this out!!!! Seems that “Mr. Halmans” factory built a lot of 20 ft. boats, but didn’t build too many manuals – and probably because people were so eager to go sailing, they weren’t going to take the time to do any serious writing or reading. If he was wrong, and you really do like to read and learn something new…. then here’s something make your day! Mr. Colin Starratt has compiled a manual of notes from being a Halman owner and has graciously offered to share that with us. If you’d like a copy, send me an e-mail at [ [email protected] ] and I’ll forward it to you. He’s done a great job in combining photos, sketches and real “meat and potatoes” perspectives from an owners viewpoint. The price to you for his work is simple, you have to send him a note of thanks and appreciation for his efforts. Absolutely the best deal you’ve run across for a long time I’d bet. The file is a “ PDF ” document and is about 40+ pages long. Thanks Colin for all of your work. Your efforts will be appreciated many times over by all of the existing and new Halman owners who read and learn from your work. As an update to this “better than free” offer, there have been a lot of requests for his manual and I hope Colin is getting his e-mail box stuffed with your notes of appreciation.
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Nordic halman 20
The nordic halman 20 is a 19.67ft masthead sloop built in fiberglass by halman manufacturing co. since 1977..
The Nordic halman 20 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
Nordic halman 20 for sale elsewhere on the web:
Main features
| Model | Nordic halman 20 | ||
| Length | 19.67 ft | ||
| Beam | 7.75 ft | ||
| Draft | 2.83 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 15.85 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 40 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 248.45 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 14.47 | ||
| Capsize | 2.29 |
| Hull type | Monohull long keel with transom hung rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 16.50 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 2.83 ft | ||
| Displacement | 2500 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 1000 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.44 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 182 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 30 ft | ||
| Sail area fore | 88.78 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 90.28 sq.ft | ||
| I | 26.50 ft | ||
| J | 6.70 ft | ||
| P | 22.10 ft | ||
| E | 8.17 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
Accommodations
| Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
| Headroom | 5 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
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| Builder | Halman Manufacturing Co. | ||
| Designer | ?? | ||
| First built | 1977 | ||
| Last built | 0 | ?? | |
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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Nordic Halman 20
Discussion in ' Sailboats ' started by Rob Cowell , Apr 21, 2021 .
Rob Cowell Junior Member
Greetings! I’m searching for folk with knowledge on the Halman 20. I have read a thread or two on this site where some seem to be quite knowledgeable. I am considering taking in project to resurrect a neglected 20 or 21 and was hoping for some insight about some observations. First, bow-spirit or anchor platform... factory or someone’s project? Second, cover/rub rail missing on deck-hull joint? Third, crack/seam along bottom 1/3 of keel? are these signs that would suggest to steer clear? Thank you, Rob
If anyone knows how to reach Viking North member could you please ask him to review this thread? It sounds like he may have used to be a dealer for these boats. Thanks!!
bajansailor Marine Surveyor
Welcome to the Forum Rob. For other readers reference, here is some background info on the Halman 20 - https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/nordic-halman-20 The Halman 21 seems to have the bowsprit (hence the extra 1' of length?) Here is one for sale - Halman 21, 1984, Hinckley, Ohio, sailboat for sale from Sailing Texas, yacht for sale https://sailingtexas.com/201801/shalman21104.html Can you post some photos showing the area of the hull / deck joint where the rubbing strake is missing? And also a photo or two of the crack along the keel?
Thanks for the reply bajan! I thought I had attached the picture files to my first post... will try and insert them. I’m going to look at her tonight so can try and get better pics... issue I see with bowsprit is that it does not match what I am seeing on other Halman 21s try the links to my drive if needed: Bow https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oTINbOalUcrZ_ES4hWV96Xlz_9wka-yq/view?usp=drivesdk StrakeKeel https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JO3u_NBVpUk9DsFBFlTPAN1vtHXB2ogc/view?usp=drivesdk
I did go see the boat yesterday and would appreciate more advice... again if anyone is able to PM Viking North (I can't seem to figure out how) I would appreciate his input. After viewing the vessel here are a few more observations: - interior has been taken apart (all teak remains) and it looks as if headliner and ?Balsa? have been removed... the underneath of the deck fiberglass seems smooth and lightly translucent... - it looks as if someone was going to try and tackle the hull-deck joint... and I am not sure if they got to it... it is currently fastened with rivets... I notice a few missing and some gaps (where you could see bare glass in-between the crack) near the stern - had original main sail (#566) and three smaller head-sails (No Genoa?) with insufficient luff/leech to reach the masthead, also had a spinnaker - crack on the keel seems to run along a joint between the hull glass and some sort of skeg? - some hull deformation around trailer post supports... (not resting on keel?) From my observations come questions for those knowledgeable: 1. Would there have typically been balsa under the head-liner? Is this difficult to re-install? 2. What was originally used to fasten hull-deck joint? Any signs to look for that would indicate it was re-done (e.g. rivets original?) 3. Is it possible this was a cutter-rig? (I've heard they existed)... did the cutter have 3-headsail (jib, bowsprit, flying) configuration? 4. Is the hull deformation and skeg separation bad news? 5. Is she too far gone? Any thoughts on salvageability and what, if anything would be a reasonable offer? Thanks, Rob
I have just sent a PM to Viking North, and asked him to have a look at this thread. However his profile says that he has not been seen on here since March last year, so maybe he has retired from the Forum. Re the removed headliner, there would not have been any balsa in this - it is quite possible that there is a balsa core in the fibreglass laminate of the cabin top though. Re the hull / deck joint, it was common practice to join this with rivets, or countersunk head bolts with nuts on the inside, and with some type of sealant between the two surfaces. Can you post some 'close up' photos of the areas of concern please? And re the crack on the keel, and the hull being set in (possibly) in way of the trailer post supports, can you post some close up photos of these areas as well please? Re if 'she is too far gone', the beauty of fibreglass is that it is infinitely repairable - you have to decide if it makes economic sense now to restore this vessel. If you are very keen on her, then a reasonable offer might be to take her off the Owner's hands for a very small sum. However the current owner probably still thinks that she is worth a lot of money.
Bajan, Once again I am thankful for your reply. I am hopeful Viking may have some specific insights into the ways these vessels were originally laid up. I have attached some pictures of the hull/deck joint and of the keel that I took while there. Unfortunately I did not get a great shot of the keel or hull being ‘set in’. The crack runs the full length and it appears to be metal below... It did not appear significant hull deformation and I take your point re fiberglass repair! Again, your replies are appreciated!
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viking north VINLAND
Rob, My recommendation --From the photos ,stay away from it , just too much work, been there done that. As a dealer for them, one big problem with these boats is they were never properly finished from the factory . A beautiful design but never built to the quality they should have been. Not that they could not be improved into a nice little coastal cruiser but look for one that is in reasonable shape to start. If you find one, I will guide you thru the modifications and improvements that will help make it the boat it should be. We modified about 20 over the years . Typical price for a good starter would be in the $5000. range. In essence this is a pocket motorsailer due to the fact that it struggles to come about and go to windward. Having said that I think it is one of the best sea boats within her size range. They have been sailed across the Atlantic. There were several here for sale over the past year, one I recall had a single cylinder inboard diesel. Be patient and you will find one especially in Ontario.
Thank you!!! The advice is much appreciated and confirms my initial thoughts I’ll keep an eye out for others! Just out of curiosity ... was there a cutter rig? What was sail configuration?
Can't recall ever seeing a cutter rig. If you google search you should have no problem getting all the specks on it. There are presently two for sale on Kijiji Nova Scotia.
Xsalty New Member
Hi there... Sorry to hijack the thread, I'm likely going to buy a little Halman 20 tomorrow or next weekend. Will be to initiate my son single handed sailing and have something ready to go around the house. I'm also hoping to practise boat repair/improvement on this before I attemps doing things myself I have never done on my real boat. e.i. glass lay up, adding hardware to deck/hull, etc... I'm really curious what the common or usual modifications on Halman 20 are, as mentionned by viking north. My first idea was to make and install a bow sprit with an anchor roller and see if it would be possible to convert it in a cutter rig with a removable baby stay. What else are you guys doing to these little boats? Thanks
Hello Xsalty-- Common mods. #1 remove the 800lb. of rusted steel balls or punch outs and replace with 1000lb. lead bits set in resin. 800lbs. steel is ok for fresh water but found salt water needs 1000lb. ballast. Also lead will lower the cent . of gravity . #2 Install custom build anchor roller. #3 Install a main sheet traveler /horse. #4 install proper bronze seacocks on all thru hulls with double all stainless hose clamps on the hose to seacock barbs. #5 Install roller furling . #6 install a hardwood backing block inside the stem for the bow eye. #7 If not already done at the factory glass the hull to deck joint on the inside of the hull. #8 re wire with marine wiring . These are the biggies but as you know it can be never ending. Good luck -Have fun -- Viking N.
CaptnJoe New Member
Hi Viking North I'm also considering a restoration project on a Nordica 20. I'm thinking you'd suggest the same list? Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Joe Kitchener, Ontario Considering getting into sailing with a Nordica 20.
TRBRZ Junior Member
Hello, I just bought a Nordica 20. Very solid boat. Needs some tlc and cleaning but all of the important parts of the boat are in great shape. Do you have a Nordica 20 and if so, how is the project going? Cheers TRB
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1981 Halman 20
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Seller's Description
Small double ender well set up for solo sailing. Great for couple or small family. Boat has been gone through and it is ready. Everything you need to launch and sail tomorrow. Perfect Great Lakes boat
Equipment: Tandem axle trailer with bearing buddies 8hp outboard with high thrust prop Original sails in good condition, hank on New sails. Roller furling Jib, Main, and Drifter LED navigation lights New Winches Modern Electronics include Chartplotter and Depthfinder Lifejackets, Adult and youth
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Design thought to be based on the NORDICA 20 though built from different tooling. The HALMAN 21, introduced in 1988, is similar but with a bowsprit. Photo courtesy Adam Hunt.
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Halman 20. The Halman 20 is a small recreational keelboat, built predominantly of fiberglass, with wood trim.It has a masthead sloop rig, a transom-hung rudder and a fixed long keel.It displaces 2,500 lb (1,134 kg) and carries 1,000 lb (454 kg) of ballast. The design has a draft of 2.83 ft (0.86 m) with the standard keel and is normally fitted with a small 3 to 6 hp (2 to 4 kW) outboard motor ...
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Dialing in a Halman 20 in San Carlos. I had the vast pleasure of sailing a Halman 20 the other day here in San Carlos. The boat came with a house purchase and I helped the new owner get the boat a bit sorted out. Halman Manufacturing Company built boats from 1978 to 1997 based out of Ontario Canada. The boats are serious little affairs and it ...
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20' Halman 20. Year. Length. Beam. Draft. Location. Price. 1981. 20' 8'8' 2'6' Wisconsin. $5,500. Description: Small double ender well set up for solo sailing. Great for couple or small family. Boat has been gone through and it is ready. ... Halman Sailboats Halman 20s Wisconsin Halmans. Featured Sailboats: Home. Register & Post. View All ...
Sleeps 4 with a compact v-berth forward and two settee bunks in the main cabin. Sail area is 188 sq. ft. The Halman 20 by comparison shows just 20 lbs less displacement, 26 lbs less ballast, has a 2' 10" draft and by visual comparison of the spec pages, has a slightly more "stepped" forefoot on the keel profile when compared to the Nordica.
Nordic Halman 20. Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Rob Cowell, Apr 21, 2021. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Joined: Apr 2021 Posts: 6 Likes: 0, Points: 1 Location: Ontario Rob Cowell Junior Member. Greetings! I'm searching for folk with knowledge on the Halman 20. I have read a thread or two on this site where some seem to be quite knowledgeable.
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An upscale version of this boat with a small bowsprit was marketed as the Halman 21 later in the 1980s. The design of the Halman 20 was inspired by the Nordica 20, and two boats look almost identical. Obviously anyone interested in the Halman may want to look for any Nordicas that may be available on the used market. by Michael McGoldrick.
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Formula. 40.04. <40: less stiff, less powerful.
Re: HALMAN 20 / MIDGET 20 (for bluewater journeying) Energy budget Ahr/d. 1. Cabin lights using LEDs. In my experience, on a boat 20 ft. overall, you only need to use the lights for cooking. The rest of the time, you can get around on feel. You soon learn your immediate space, and this is true above decks as well.
Halman 20 preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Halman 20 used sailboats for sale by owner.
I've on 33 and 27 foot sail boats ,but when I look back the happiest I ever was on a boat was when I was on a 20 ft heavy weather boat , she could handle 50 knts +. With bigger comes bigger worries bigger costs. There are two boats I'm looking at for ME , a halman 20 and a Tanzer 7.5 (24) , but now my finds them to small for her and the dog.
Sailboats Built By Halman Manufacturing Co. (Dates indicate when boat was first built by any builder) Sort by: ... NORDIC HALMAN 20: 19.67 ft / 6.00 m: 1977: SHARK 24: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m: 1959: ShipCanvas. KiwiGrip. Bruntons. Rudder Craft. SPW Non-BR. Pelagic Autopilots. Boater's Closet Non-BR.
Halman preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Halman used sailboats for sale by owner.
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . Halman 20, 1984 in great condition 1984 Halman20 with three berths and 5 ft headroom. The 1994 2-stroke 8 hp Yamaha is not young but lightly used and very reliable. new wiring and coil and the impeller/pump is also fairly recent. The sails are good condition