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• Yacht Type: Sailing Catamarans
• Charter Type: Bareboat Charters

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• High Season: $ 18,431.00
• Low Season: $ 9,282.00
• Start Time: 12:00
• End Time: 12:00

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The charter fee is for the rental of the yacht and does not include the mandatory extras.

Mandatory Extras: Navigare Carefree $1,070 per charter Cruising tax $4 person/night Pay for fuel used

Optional Extras: Sleep Aboard: 65% Daily Rate Wifi Router $150/week Check Out Skipper $350 Skipper in Cabin $310/day plus meals & gratuity Skipper in Forepeak $360/day plus meals & gratuity

Fortunate Sun Bareboat Charter in British Virgin Islands

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• Yacht Name: Fortunate Sun
• Manufacturer: Catana
• Model: Bali 4.6 - 5 + 1 cab.
• Yacht Age: 2022
• Yacht Length (Feet): 46.9
• Beam (Feet): 25.1
• Draft (Feet): 4
• License Required: No
• Check Out Skipper: Optional For a Fee
• Max Passengers: 11
• Manual Heads: 4
• Total Showers: 5
• Single Beds Forepeak: 1
• Single Beds Interior: 1
• Yacht Layout

Electronics

• WiFi: Router Rental $150/week
• Depth Sounder
• TV / DVD Player
• Stereo: Indoor speakers Outside speakers
• Fully Equipped Galley
• Water Maker
• Refrigeration: Yes
• Cockpit Fridge: Yes
• Microwave: Yes
• Blender: Yes
• Toaster: Yes
• Coffee Maker: Electric
• BBQ Grill: Yes

Standard Items

• PFDs & Safety Equipment
• Navigation Charts & Manual Tools
• Linens and towels: Linens, pillows, dish towels, bath towels, hand towels and facecloths - recommend bringing beach towels
• Basic Cleaning Supplies: Welcome Pack Includes: 1 bottle of rum 2 small bottles of water 1 roll of paper towels 1 roll of toilet paper per head 15 tall kitchen trash bags 1 bottle of dishwash liquid soap 1 sponge 1 pack of handi-wipes 1 bottle of Fabuloso 2 small bars of soap per head 1 bottle of hand sanitizer 3 boxes of matches Off insect spray Lysol spray
• Basic Tool Kit
• First Aid Kit
• Air Conditioning: With Generator
• Generator: Yes
• Electric Anchor Windlass
• Electric Main Sail Winch

Water Toys / Entertainment

• Dinghy: Yes
• Outboard: Yes
• Snorkeling gear: Full Sets of Adult Size Snorkeling Gear Included
• Stand Up Paddle Board: Rent in Advance
• Floats: Rent in Advance

Scuba & Fishing

• Guest Fishing License Required: Yes

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VI Sailing Concierge Team – January 12, 2024

Charter Dates: 12/21/2023-12/27/2023

Name on Your Reservation: Thomas DiLenge Are you the Lead Charterer or a Guest? Lead Charterer Boat Name: Fortunate Sun Charter Company & Yacht Please answer the following questions pertaining to the charter company and the yacht you chartered. Rating of Charter Company & Yacht: 5 Upon arrival and during your charter, were the staff of the charter company friendly and accommodating? yes, based on limited interactions Did the staff do a good job familiarizing you with the yacht and its equipment? No, but we had hired a skipper, who did so. Was the yacht clean and in good working condition? yes Was the yacht’s cooking and cleaning equipment sufficient? yes, but the grill was challenging to use as it was small and not fixed in place with enough force. Was the yacht well ventilated? yes, though the toilets smelled despite lots of pumping… Cruising Area

Did you like the area you chartered in? yes very much!

VI Sailing Concierge Team – November 29, 2023

Charter Dates: 11/18/2023-11/28/2023

Name on Your Reservation: David Brown Are you the Lead Charterer or a Guest? Lead Charterer Boat Name: Fortunate Sun Charter Company & Yacht Please answer the following questions pertaining to the charter company and the yacht you chartered. Rating of Charter Company & Yacht: 5 Upon arrival and during your charter, were the staff of the charter company friendly and accommodating? Yes Did the staff do a good job familiarizing you with the yacht and its equipment? Medium Was the yacht clean and in good working condition? Yes Was the yacht’s cooking and cleaning equipment sufficient? Yes Was the yacht well ventilated? No Additional comments about the charter company and yacht you chartered? Very helpful and easy to communicate with. Cruising Area

Did you like the area you chartered in? Yes

Cancellation Policy

120 Days or More Prior to Charter Start: Cancellation Fee is 15% of the charter fee or 750 Euros, whichever is greater 119 – 60 Days Prior to Charter Start: Cancellation Fee is 50% of Charter Fee 59 Days or Less Prior to Charter Start: No Refund

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Confirmation Deposit: 50% of Charter Fee Due 45 Days Prior to Charter Start: Balance of Charter Fee + Extras

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PLEASE READ THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS (“ Terms ”) CAREFULLY AS THEY CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS, REMEDIES AND OBLIGATIONS AS WELL AS A SECTION GOVERNING THE JURISDICTION AND VENUE OF DISPUTES. THESE TERMS ALSO CONTAIN A LEGALLY BINDING RELEASE, WAIVER OF LIABILITY, AND ASSUMPTION OF RISK. By creating a username, a login, clicking submit, using the services of Charter Experts, LLC d/b/a Virgin Island Sailing® (“ Broker ) or by accessing Broker’s website, you agree that you have read, and acknowledge your acceptance of these Terms. The Terms are subject to change at any time without notice at Broker’s sole discretion. Additionally, any transaction for which you have made payment shall be governed by the form of Terms in effect at the time of such payment notwithstanding any subsequent changes hereto.

If you are obtaining a quote, information, booking travel for and/or securing or procuring a Charter (as that term is defined in Section 1 below) for more than just yourself, all references below to “Charterer” or “you” (and derivations thereof) shall be read to mean you on behalf of yourself and each individual within your group for whom you are obtaining a quote, information, booking travel for and/or securing or procuring Charter.

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• Prepaid Charter Reservations . Typically, Broker negotiates charter rates in advance with the yacht owner or charter company (“ Charter Provider ”) to obtain cost-effective rates, and facilitate reservations and availability for yacht charters, excursions and travel (the “ Charter ”). Broker also provides services to you by facilitating the booking of reservations for consideration and receives a commission from the Charter Provider (the “ Broker Fee ”). The Broker Fee is included in the pre-negotiated Charter rate provided to you, plus taxes and other fees where applicable. You agree that your payment is for the total amount set forth in the applicable Charter agreement (which Charter Provider may refer to as a Charter Contract, Charter Agreement, Booking Terms & Conditions, Instructions and Terms for Accommodations, as well as other derivations) provided to you by Broker (“ Charter Agreement ”). Upon execution of the Charter Agreement and receipt of the applicable deposit, you will have made a reservation for the Charter that authorizes Broker to facilitate the Charter on your behalf (“Charter Reservation”), including making payment arrangements with the Charter Provider. You further agree that Broker is a third-party beneficiary to the Charter Agreement and shall have the right to enforce such agreement to the extent it deems such enforcement necessary or advisable to protect its rights hereunder or under the Charter Agreement.

  Broker retains the Broker Fee as compensation in arranging your Charter Reservation. The Broker Fee varies based on the amount and type of Charter and/or services provided by Broker.  By making a Charter Reservation, you accept and agree to the relevant cancellation and no-show policy of the Charter Provider set forth in the Charter Agreement. Cancellation and no-show policies vary for each Charter. Carefully read the Charter Agreement and additional information provided to you by Broker. It is expressly agreed by Charterer that the Broker Fee is earned at the time the Charter Reservation is made. Late payment, wrong credit card or debit card details, invalid credit or debit cards, or insufficient funds are for your own risk and account, and you will not be entitled to any refund of any prepaid amount unless the Charter Provider expressly agrees otherwise under the Charter Agreement or in some other signed writing.

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• Payment . All payments must be made by personal check, bank/wire transfer, ACH payment and/or with a major credit card unless otherwise expressly stated. The total price for the Charter Reservation will be billed in U.S. Dollars unless otherwise stated. Some banks and credit card companies impose fees for international transactions. If you are making a reservation from outside of the United States on a US credit card, your bank may convert the payment amount to your local currency and charge you a conversion fee. This means the amount listed on your credit or bank card statement may be in your local currency and therefore a different figure than the amount provided by Broker for the Charter Reservation. In addition, a foreign transaction fee may be assessed if the financial institution that issued your credit card is located outside of the United States. Booking international travel may be considered to be an international transaction by the financial institution or card company. The currency exchange rate and foreign transaction fee is determined solely by your financial institution on the day that it processes the transaction. If you have any questions about these fees or the exchange rate applied to your booking, please contact your financial institution. Broker shall not be liable to you for any such service, conversion, or exchange fee.

  Broker expressly reserves the right to cancel your Charter Reservation if full payment is not timely received as set forth in the Charter Agreement.

• Cancellation and Rescheduling . You may cancel or change your Charter Reservation as set forth in the Charter Agreement by and among you, the Charter Provider and/or Broker. Please note that some Charter Providers do not permit changes to or cancellation of reservations after they are made, or after a certain date, as indicated in the Charter Agreement. You agree to abide by the terms of the Charter Agreement with respect to your Charter Reservation. Broker will not be responsible for reimbursing Charterer for any previously tendered deposits or payments by Charterer and disclaims all liability for the failure of a Charter Provider to refund or return any such funds.
• Credit Card Transactions and Chargebacks . If for any reason, any Charter Provider is unable to provide the Charter, or any part thereof, for which you have contracted, your remedy lies against the Charter Provider, and not against Broker. However, Broker will use reasonable efforts to assist you and Charter Provider in reaching a resolution to a dispute between you and the Charter Provider. In the event that your payment has already been transferred from Broker to Charter Provider or to an escrow account, you agree that you will not seek a chargeback against Broker for such amounts transferred. You further agree to indemnify and hold Broker harmless from and against any liability, loss, damage or expense (including without limitation, reasonable attorneys’ fees) that Broker may incur in connection with chargebacks against Broker or under the Charter Agreement and your performance thereunder. If Broker incurs any costs, including but not limited to attorneys’ fees, to recover any payments charged back by your credit card company or other financial institution, you agree that you will be liable for these costs. If your payment is declined for any reason, you agree to settle any amounts owed to Broker via money order, cashier’s check, personal check or bank/ACH transfer immediately.
• Broker Responsibility . Broker makes arrangements with the Charter Provider. Broker additionally makes additional arrangements with other suppliers for the various components and other services that comprise your Charter (“Charter Suppliers”). Broker is not an agent of these Charter Providers or the Charter Suppliers (and the Charter Providers and Charter Suppliers are not agents of Broker). Broker expressly disclaims any liability for the actions or omissions of the Charter Provider and the Charter Suppliers. The Charter Providers and the Charter Suppliers reserve the right to refuse service to you at their sole discretion. Broker assumes no liability for the acts of the Charter Provider or the Charter Suppliers in refusing service. Broker is not responsible for schedule changes and does not offer compensation for those changes. Broker is not responsible under any circumstances for any injury or damages you may suffer, in connection with sea, air or ground transportation, hotel accommodations, or other travel or excursion services arranged by Broker.

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Excepting only liability that directly arises from the gross negligence or willful misconduct of Broker, you will not hold Broker responsible for any injury, damage or loss you may suffer while on a Charter, whether incurred on the Charter or in connection with any other rental, purchase, excursion or activity, regardless of the relationship of any of the foregoing with the Charter Provider or the Charter Suppliers.

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You will review your Charter Agreement and travel documents for accuracy upon receipt. You understand that it is your responsibility to review the accuracy of all details in the Charter Reservation provided to you, and that you may contact Broker if you have any questions.

You assume full and complete responsibility for checking and verifying any and all passport, visa, vaccination, or other entry requirements of your destination(s), and all conditions regarding health, safety, security, political stability, and labor or civil unrest at such destination(s).

You understand that Broker recommends purchasing travel insurance to cover certain risks inherent in travel such as supplier bankruptcy and the inability to travel due to a medical or personal emergency.

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Broker has no special knowledge regarding the Charter Provider’s or Charter Supplier’s financial condition, unsafe conditions, health hazards, weather hazards, or climate extremes at locations to which you may travel during or otherwise in connection with your Charter.

• Limitation on Liability . In no event shall Broker, Charter Provider, Charter Suppliers, and/or their respective affiliates, or any employees, agents, officers, directors, members or managers of any of the foregoing (“Broker and Charter Releasees”), be liable for any direct, indirect, punitive, incidental, special or consequential damages arising out of, or in any way connected with, your access to, display of or use the Broker’s website, the Charter or services provided to you in connection with the Charter (including, but not limited to, your reliance upon opinions of the Broker), whether based on a theory of negligence, contract, tort, strict liability, consumer protection statutes, or otherwise, and even if Broker and/or any other of the Broker and Charter Releasees have been advised of the possibility of such damages.

If, despite the limitation above, Broker or the Broker and Charter Releasees are found liable for any loss or damage which arises out of or in any way connected with any of the occurrences described above, then Broker, Charter Provider, Charter Supplier and the Broker and Charter Releasees will in no event exceed, in the aggregate, the greater of (a) the Broker Fee, and (b) One-Hundred Dollars (US $100.00).

The foregoing limitation of liability reflects the allocation of risk between the parties. The limitations specified in this section will survive and apply even if any limited remedy specified in these Terms is found to have failed of its essential purpose. The limitations of liability provided in these Terms inure to the benefit of Broker and/or its providers.

The foregoing does not affect any liability which cannot be excluded or limited under applicable law.

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Italian authorities reveal first key findings of Bayesian manslaughter probe into tragic sinking after ‘mistakes’ made

• Emily-Jane Heap
• Owen Leonard
• Published : 9:08, 24 Aug 2024
• Updated : 21:59, 24 Aug 2024
• Published : Invalid Date,

THE captain and crew of sunk superyacht Bayesian are facing a manslaughter and homicide probe after seven on board died including Brit tech tycoon Mike Lynch and his daughter.

Prosecutors disclosed that the victims had attempted to scramble to one side of the doomed £30million, 184ft vessel in a desperate battle to reach air pockets after it went down in a storm off Sicily.

Mr Lynch and four others were found in the first cabin of the luxury yacht’s left side while his 18-year-old daughter, Hannah, was alone in the third after it sank stern-first before rolling on to its right on the seabed. The yacht’s chef also died.

Fifteen of the 22 people on board, including Mr Lynch’s wife Angela Bacares, 57, escaped on a life raft.

Chief Prosecutor Ambrogio Cartosio said the victims would have been asleep when the freak weather struck at around 5am local time on Monday last week, leaving them unable to escape.

It was revealed that a downburst — a powerful, localised wind striking the boat — and not a tornado caused the disaster.

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Bayesian maker says his boats are 'UNSINKABLE' & says crew made 'mistakes'

Inside last 16 mins of Bayesian as ‘black box’ reveals minute-by-minute horror

The victims’ bodies were wedged in “tight spots” with furniture on top of them, it was said — but a suggestion that the yacht’s hatches or windows may have been left open was not confirmed.

Divers made more than 120 trips in five days to the wrecked boat 164ft below the surface, with mirrors in the cabins making their tough job harder because their lights were reflected back at them.

It was also revealed that the crew and captain were not tested for alcohol or drug use after the sinking and have no legal requirement to stay in Sicily .

At the Termini Imerese Courthouse in Palermo, Mr Cartosio said there may have been “behaviours that were not perfectly in order with regard to the responsibility everybody had”.

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He added: “There could be in fact the question of homicide. But this is the beginning of the inquiry, we cannot exclude anything at all.”

He said one line of inquiry was whether the crew attempted to raise the alarm with passengers before getting on the lifeboat and escaping.

He vowed to “discover how much they (the crew) knew and to what extent all the people (passengers) were warned.”

He said: “We will establish each element’s (crew) responsibility. For me, it is probable that offences were committed — that it could be a case of manslaughter.”

He said Captain James Cutfield had been “extremely cooperative” during questioning and will be quizzed further.

Lead prosecutor Raffaele Cammarano said Italy’s Air Force determined the boat was sunk by a downburst which descended from a thunderstorm.

He said there were forecasts of strong winds and a storm alert but good visibility and no suggestion of a tornado.

He added: “Given the conditions were such, there wasn’t anything to suggest there could be an extreme situation.

“There are vessels that can monitor  these events and one would have thought the captain had taken precautions.”

He said one person was on watch in the cockpit at the time of the accident.

Bentivoglio Fiandra, chief of Palermo’s fire brigade and part of the rescue, said the victims “were trying to hide in the cabins on the left-hand side” where the last air pockets remained.

With Mr Lynch in the first cabin were Morgan Stanley International chief Jonathan Bloomer and his wife Judy, and Clifford Chance lawyer Christopher Morvillo and his wife Neda .

The body of Hannah , in the third, was recovered on Friday by divers. Some were involved in the 2012 Costa Concordia rescue.

It comes as...

• Brit teen  Hannah Lynch was found on the sunken boat  on Friday as her family paid tribute
• Five bodies were recovered from the yacht wreck  on Wednesday and Thursday including Brit tycoon Mike Lynch
• The CEO of the firm that produced the Bayesian said the boat is  'unsinkable' and pointed to human error
• Captain James Cutfield was quizzed for two hours  by cops and remains at the  centre of a probe
• Experts believe the yacht's 'tallest mast in the world' may have contributed to the disaster after a  freak ‘Black Swan’ weather event struck
• Pictures showed the  tiny raft that saved up to 15 people
• Frantic text messages  from the survivors revealed the chaos

Giuseppe Frison, head of the Department of Fire Fighters’ Divers, said the Bayesian was “more intense” as the dives were deeper.

He added: “This event has brought back some memories.

“Inside the cabin, it revived the same sensations. But in terms of scale, everything was very different. Plus this dive was so much deeper, so we had to severely restrict our time at depth.

“It felt a little like re-running the movie in our heads. Although the scene was very similar, it was like visiting someone’s house turned at 90 degrees, with everything on its side.”

Vincenzo Nardoni, inspector at the Department of Fire Fighters’ Divers in Naples, added: “Inside it was a very confusing place, with wardrobes and furniture whirling all around us, and lots of mirrors reflecting back our lights at us.

“The bodies were all wedged in tight spots, with furniture on top or beside them. They were all stuck there.”

Giovanni Costantino, CEO of The ­Italian Sea Group, which manufactured Perini Navi shipyard vessel Bayesian, accused the crew of failing to “close the doors and hatches” and insisted the boat should have been “unsinkable”.

Meanwhile, the Bayesian’s chief stewardess, Sasha Murray, paid tribute to the Lynch family yesterday. She called Hannah “a diamond in a sea of stars; bright beautiful and always shining”.

Ms Murray, who it is understood was rescued from the yacht, added: “What most people may not have seen was the extraordinarily strong, deep and loving relationship she shared with her parents.”

The sailing trip to the Mediterranean, is understood to have been a celebration of Mr Lynch’s acquittal in a major US fraud trial.

The dad of two, who created software giant Autonomy, said he was “elated” to be cleared on June 6 with co-defendant Stephen Chamberlain, 52.

Mr Chamberlain, a finance executive, died in hospital after being hit by a car while out running near his home in Cambridgeshire on August 21.

Police said there was no suggestion his death was suspicious.

Bayesian mystery: the unanswered questions

PROSECUTORS confirmed they have launched a major probe into whether the Bayesian crew follow the right procedures before it tragically sank.

With the investigation underway now that bodies have been recovered, these are the key points that remain shrouded in mystery.

Why did it sink while other boats withstood the storm?

Survivors were saved by crew of Dutch boat Sir Robert Baden Powell, which was moored right near the Bayesian.

The 42-metre boat remained anchored after its skipper turned on the engine, also avoiding a collision with the doomed British-flagged vessel.

Captain Karsten Borner said the Bayesian crew were likely "surprised" by the storm's prowess.

Were proper safety precautions followed?

In light of the weather warning issued by the coast guard, questions have been raised over whether yacht guests were woken up and given life jackets.

On Saturday, prosecutors said those who died were likely asleep when the storm hit.

This meant they couldn't escape as the boat rapidly sank, investigators believe.

Was the Bayesian properly anchored?

The anchor being lowered to 50 metres has sparked questions over whether the yacht should have been secured in shallower water.

Retired Royal Navy Commander Tom Sharpe also said the Bayesian is designed for a huge sail - and without the sail raised, the fierce gusts would've rocked the boat's aluminium pole.

He told CBC News: "My kind of working assumption is that she was probably a bit further in at anchor, and it’s very likely, in these sort of conditions, that her anchor dragged."

Were hatches left open?

It access hatches were left open before the storm struck, it's believed the yacht would've quickly filled with water once it tipped, causing the swift sinking.

An expert at the scene told Reuters that one of the earliest aims for investigators was to establish whether the crew did not close access hatches before disaster struck.

With temperatures above 33 degrees, they may have been left open for air circulation.

Sam Jefferson said: "I imagine all the doors were open because it was hot, so there were enough hatches and doors open that it filled with water very quickly and sank like that."

How long will the investigation take?

Sicilian prosecutors wouldn't be drawn on giving a timeline for the investigation on Saturday.

With the wreck at 50 metres below the sea surface, they warned it would take some time.

Autopsies are also yet to be done.

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• Richard Nixon was president of the US when group leader John Fogerty wrote this song. Fogerty was not a fan of Nixon and felt that those close to him were receiving preferential treatment to avoid military service.
• This song spoke out against the war in Vietnam but was supportive of the soldiers fighting there. Like many CCR fans, most of the soldiers came from the working class and were there because they didn't have connections that could get them out. The song is sung from the perspective of one of these men, who ends up fighting because he is not a "senator's son."
• On November 16, 1969, Creedence performed "Fortunate Son" on The Ed Sullivan Show , probably because the show's producers didn't realize it was a protest song. The show tried hard not to offend anyone, and usually had bands perform their least-controversial songs or alter the lyrics for the show (see "Let's Spend The Night Together" and " Light My Fire ").
• Fogerty recorded a bunch of vocal takes for "Down On The Corner" before singing this. As a result, his voice was strained, which he thinks is apparent on the song.
• This is one of those songs that came together very quickly. Fogerty recalled to American Songwriter magazine in January 2013: "When I felt it was about ready to hatch, I went into my bedroom and just sat down to write. The whole thing happened in about 20 minutes. That just poured out."
• Like Bruce Springsteen's " Born In The U.S.A. ," this is often misinterpreted as a patriotic anthem, when it is the opposite.
• Wrangler jeans used this in commercials in 2000, taking only the first two lines: "Some folks are born, made to wave the flag, Ooh, that red, white and blue," implying the patriotic misinterpretation. The next lines are: "And when the band plays 'Hail to the Chief,' ooh, they're pointin' the cannon at you," but those lyrics aren't appropriate for selling jeans. John Fogerty was furious, but there was nothing he could do about it because he didn't own the rights to the song. Wrangler's director of advertising responded by saying the brand heard the song as "more an ode to the common man. The common man is who we have been directing Wrangler toward." The ads ran through 2002, when Fogerty voiced his displeasure in a Los Angeles Times article and the company pulled the spots. Fogerty later explained that it touched a nerve because the ad distorted the meaning of the song. "If there's some other song that was probably just a simple rock 'n' roll song, maybe I wouldn't feel so strongly, but 'Fortunate Son' has a real point to it," he said. In 2016, Wrangler again turned to CCR to soundtrack a spot, this time using " Up Around the Bend ."
• Until 2023, Fogerty didn't own the publishing rights to this song. He lost them, along with all the other songs he wrote for CCR, in his contract with Fantasy Records, which the band signed when they were struggling. Fantasy's boss at the time, Saul Zaentz, controlled the rights and could use the songs as he pleased, as long as they weren't performed by any member of CCR. Fogerty seethed over how "Fortunate Son" shilled out and misrepresented, but he had no choice. He expressed this frustration on his solo track " Vanz Kant Danz ." Fogerty was finally able to purchase his catalog in 2023 when he was 77. By then, Fantasy had been acquired by Concord Music.
• This has been covered by U2, Bruce Springsteen, Kid Rock, Dropkick Murphys, Sleater-Kinney, Corrosion Of Conformity, Minutemen, Uncle Tupelo, Bob Seger, Circle Jerks, Joe Lynn Turner, Bunny Foot Charm, Death Cab For Cutie, Undead, Raccoon, and 38 Special.
• When interviewed by Rolling Stone magazine, John Fogerty was asked what inspired this song. His response: "Julie Nixon was hanging around with David Eisenhower, and you just had the feeling that none of these people were going to be involved with the war. In 1969, the majority of the country thought morale was great among the troops, and like 80% of them were in favor of the war. But to some of us who were watching closely, we just knew we were headed for trouble." >> Suggestion credit : Brett - Edmonton, Canada, for above 2
• Wyclef Jean's slow, passionate cover was the theme song for the 2004 political thriller The Manchurian Candidate . Another popular political film from the summer of '04 was the controversial documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 , of which John Fogerty remarked: "With the Michael Moore movie, certain conservative talk show hosts call him un-American. Him and anybody else who says anything about the war... To question your country's policy, especially in a war that kills people, is definitely not un-American. It's probably the most patriotic thing you can do." >> Suggestion credit : Brett - Edmonton, Canada
• This is one of the first protest songs that makes the point that it's the poor who are most likely to fight the wars. During the Iraq war, System Of A Down covered this topic with their song " B.Y.O.B. ."
• Former United States President George W. Bush is often considered a "Fortunate Son," as he reaped the benefits that came with growing up in a powerful political family, which may have helped him avoid combat. This is covered in a book called Fortunate Son . >> Suggestion credit : Bertrand - Paris, France, for above 2
• On November 6, 2014, Fogerty performed this at the White House as part of the A Salute to the Troops concert that was broadcast the next day on PBS ahead of Veteran's Day. Fogerty wasn't sure how the song would be received at an event honoring military personnel, but it got a great reaction from the crowd, including many of the veterans and President Obama.
• This was featured in the 1994 movie Forrest Gump as the title character, played by Tom Hanks, is en route to serve in Vietnam.
• On September 11, 2020, after President Donald Trump used this song at rallies for his re-election campaign, John Fogerty took to Facebook to offer commentary and explain the true meaning of the song. Said Fogerty: "Recently, the President's been using my song 'Fortunate Son' at his rallies, which I find confounding to say the least, so I thought I'd explain a little bit about what 'Fortunate Son' is about. I wrote the song back in 1969 at the height of the Vietnam War. By the time I wrote the song I had already been drafted and had served in the military. I've been a lifelong supporter of our guys and gals in the military probably because of that experience. Back in those days we still had a draft, and something I was very upset about was that people of privilege - in other words, rich people or people that had position - could use that to avoid the draft. I found that very upsetting, and that's why I wrote 'Fortunate Son.' That was the whole intent of the song, the inspiration for the song. The very first lines are: Some folks are born made to wave the flag Ohh, they're red, white and blue But when the band plays "Hail to the chief" They point the cannon at you Well, that's exactly what happened recently in Lafayette Park . When the President decided to take a walk across the park, he cleared out the area using federal troops so that he could stand in front of St. John's Church with a bible. It's a song I could have written now, so I find it confusing that the President has chosen to use my song for his political rallies when in fact, it seems like he is probably the Fortunate Son."
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• My Receiptify It's quite amusing to observe how some individuals interpret songs like this, using them as a basis for their disdain towards the government, particularly in the US. On the other hand, staunch right-wing supporters simply appreciate the music, while those who are more discerning revel in the intricate ironies. When we're on the field, facing the enemy, it's not that we lack understanding; it's actually quite the opposite. We comprehend far more than our critics might realize. We put our lives on the line to safeguard, among other things, their right to criticize us.
• Bud Dark from Illinois "This song spoke out against the war in Vietnam but was supportive of the soldiers fighting there." How? I call BS. Revisionist history from Fogarty. "I ain't no military son." Huh?? Never heard that he was in the Army until a few years ago, when veterans were respected again. When this song was written, people at the airports spat on troops returning from Vietnam. "Well, that's exactly what happened recently in Lafayette Park. When the President decided to take a walk across the park, he cleared out the area using federal troops so that he could stand in front of St. John's Church with a bible." Anarchists and leftists rioted and set fire to the church. Hundreds of cops were injured. Take your kneejerk leftist politics & shove them, Fogarty! PS, I saw your band around '71 and it was great. Stick to music.
• Dan from Calif Run through the jungle is not about Vietnam it's about Proliferation of gun control in America . People get it right, I think John Fogerty gets tired of hraring the song is about Vietnam.
• Mewirez from Pennsylvania Blue collar & white collar workers are just that. The "labor" or workers that do the hart dirty work in factories wear blue button down collared shirts. Hence, blue collar workers. The "big wigs" up in their A/C cooled offices, wear the white button down collared shirts, hence white collar workers. White collar crimes... etc.
• Irony from Florida So many snowflakes in the comments are so mad that they can't deny that Trump is a cowardly draft dodger who called a true war hero, McCain, a loser for suffering in a war Trump used money to avoid. Pathetic. You can't support a traitorous coward and call yourself a patriot. Pick one.
• Jess from Jasika What's hilarious to me is that so many snowflakes seem to take this and similar songs as justifications for their hatred of (especially the US) government -- and hardcore right-wingers just enjoy the music, and the brighter bulbs among us revel in the complex ironies. When we're out there killing the enemy, it isn't that we don't understand: it's that we understand far more than our detractors can imagine. We're better than they are: we risk our lives to protect, among other things, their freedom to persecute us.
• D from Nj we all can agree that Orange face BONESPURS is the Real "Fortunate Son" - got out of draft fraudulently (his M.O.) numerous times and didn't even serve in the reserves! COWARD - No service time AT ALL!- humping flags DOES NOT MAKE YOU A PATRIOT!!!! Lost many good friends in Vietnam and others left with terminal medical or mental issues, While the Rich got Richer!!!
• Rw from So Calif Spot on
• Moremoney2 from Kentucky I did not signup for the reserves to avoid the draft like John Fogerty. I went down to post office at 18 and signed up for the draft like most young men, but I guess I was really the Fortunate Son, because my number never came up. God bless those who served and God bless Donald J. trump.
• Anonymous There's a fourth political song on Willy and the Poor Boys. Effigy is about Richard Nixon
• Soldier from America That fortunate son in the whitehouse is serving as commander in chief over all the armed forces. Show some respect.
• Anonymous Blue collar is a term for working class people who typically work dirtier jobs, or one with a smaller paycheque. They were called this because if they wore white shirts, the dirt from work would show on the fabric.
• Pvt. Peon from Sodom Even during the American Civil War the rich avoided serving.
• Jesse from Mississippi What's hilarious to me is that so many snowflakes seem to take this and similar songs as justifications for their hatred of (especially the US) government -- and hardcore right-wingers just enjoy the music, and the brighter bulbs among us revel in the complex ironies. When we're out there killing the enemy, it isn't that we don't understand: it's that we understand far more than our detractors can imagine. We're better than they are: we risk our lives to protect, among other things, their freedom to persecute us.
• Rylie from South Dakota What does the word blue collar in this song mean? So freaking confused.
• Michael from At Louis John Fogerty was not drafted. He served in the Army reserves. If you were drafted in 1966 you did not have the option to join the reserves you went directly on active duty for 2 years and had a 90% chance of going to Vietnam. You avoided the draft by joining the reserves or the guard, which is what he did.
• Barry from Sauquoit, Ny On November 16th 1969, C.C.R. performed “Fortunate Son" & "Down on the Corner” on the CBS-TV program 'The Ed Sullivan Show'... At the time "Fortunate Son" was at #14 and "Down on the Corner" was at #21 on Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart... The following week Billboard combined both sides on the chart and the record was at #9; on December 14th, 1969 both sides peaked at #3 {for 1 week} and spent 15 weeks on the Top 100... The group's rhythm guitarist Tom Fogerty passed away on September 6th, 1990 at the young age of 48... May he R.I.P.
• Slick Goodlin from Santa Clara, Ca Regarding George Bush's military service, here are comments from from someone who actually served with him: COL. WILLIAM CAMPENNI (retired) U.S. Air Force/Air National Guard, Herndon, VA. George Bush and I were lieutenants and pilots in the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron (FIS), Texas Air National Guard (ANG) from 1970 to 1971. We had the same flight and squadron commanders (Maj. William Harris and Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, both now deceased). While we were not part of the same social circle outside the base, we were in the same fraternity of fighter pilots, and proudly wore the same squadron patch. It is quite frustrating to hear the daily cacophony from the left and Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, et al., about Lt. Bush escaping his military responsibilities by hiding in the Texas ANG. In the Air Guard during the Vietnam War, you were always subject to call-up, as many Air National Guardsmen are finding out today. If the 111th FIS and Lt. Bush did not go to Vietnam, blame President Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, not lowly Lt. Bush. They deliberately avoided use of the Guard and Reserves for domestic political calculations, knowing that a draftee only stirred up the concerns of one family, while a call-up got a whole community's attention. The mission of the 147th Fighter Group and its subordinate 111th FIS, Texas ANG, and the airplane it possessed, the F-102, was air defense. It was focused on defending the continental United States from Soviet nuclear bombers. The F-102 could not drop bombs and would have been useless in Vietnam. A pilot program using ANG volunteer pilots in F-102s (called Palace Alert) was scrapped quickly after the airplane proved to be unsuitable to the war effort. Ironically, Lt. Bush did inquire about this program but was advised by an ANG supervisor (Maj. Maurice Udell, retired) that he did not have the desired experience (500 hours) at the time and that the program was winding down and not accepting more volunteers. If you check the 111th FIS records of 1970-72 and any other ANG squadron, you will find other pilots excused for career obligations and conflicts. The Bush excusal in 1972 was further facilitated by a change in the unit's mission, from an operational fighter squadron to a training squadron with a new airplane, the F-101, which required that more pilots be available for full-time instructor duty rather than part-time traditional reservists with outside employment. The winding down of the Vietnam War in 1971 provided a flood of exiting active-duty pilots for these instructor jobs, making part-timers like Lt. Bush and me somewhat superfluous. There was a huge glut of pilots in the Air Force in 1972, and with no cockpits available to put them in, many were shoved into nonflying desk jobs. Any pilot could have left the Air Force or the Air Guard with ease after 1972 before his commitment was up because there just wasn't room for all of them anymore. Sadly, few of today's partisan pundits know anything about the environment of service in the Reserves in the 1970s. The image of a reservist at that time is of one who joined, went off for six months' basic training, then came back and drilled weekly or monthly at home, with two weeks of "summer camp." With the knowledge that Mr. Johnson and Mr. McNamara were not going to call out the Reserves, it did become a place of refuge for many wanting to avoid Vietnam. There was one big exception to this abusive use of the Guard to avoid the draft, and that was for those who wanted to fly, as pilots or crew members. Because of the training required, signing up for this duty meant up to 2½ years of active duty for training alone, plus a high probability of mobilization. A fighter-pilot candidate selected by the Guard (such as Lt. Bush and me) would be spending the next two years on active duty going through basic training (six weeks), flight training (one year), survival training (two weeks) and combat crew training for his aircraft (six to nine months), followed by local checkout (up to three more months) before he was even deemed combat-ready. Because the draft was just two years, you sure weren't getting out of duty being an Air Guard pilot. If the unit to which you were going back was an F-100, you were mobilized for Vietnam. Avoiding service? Yeah, tell that to those guys. The Bush critics do not comprehend the dangers of fighter aviation at any time or place, in Vietnam or at home, when they say other such pilots were risking their lives or even dying while Lt. Bush was in Texas. Our Texas ANG unit lost several planes right there in Houston during Lt. Bush's tenure, with fatalities. Just strapping on one of those obsolescing F-102s was risking one's life. Critics such as Mr. Kerry (who served in Vietnam, you know), Terry McAuliffe and Michael Moore (neither of whom served anywhere) say Lt. Bush abandoned his assignment as a jet fighter pilot without explanation or authorization and was AWOL from the Alabama Air Guard. Well, as for abandoning his assignment, this is untrue. Lt. Bush was excused for a period to take employment in Florida for a congressman and later in Alabama for a Senate campaign. Excusals for employment were common then and are now in the Air Guard, as pilots frequently are in career transitions, and most commanders (as I later was) are flexible in letting their charges take care of career affairs until they return or transfer to another unit near their new employment. Sometimes they will transfer temporarily to another unit to keep them on the active list until they can return home. The receiving unit often has little use for a transitory member, especially in a high-skills category like a pilot, because those slots usually are filled and, if not filled, would require extensive conversion training of up to six months, an unlikely option for a temporary hire. As a commander, I would put such "visitors" in some minor administrative post until they went back home. There even were a few instances when I was unaware that they were on my roster because the paperwork often lagged. Today, I can't even recall their names. If a Lt. Bush came into my unit to "pull drills" for a couple of months, I wouldn't be too involved with him because I would have a lot more important things on my table keeping the unit combat ready. Another frequent charge is that, as a member of the Texas ANG, Lt. Bush twice ignored or disobeyed lawful orders, first by refusing to report for a required physical in the year when drug testing first became part of the exam, and second by failing to report for duty at the disciplinary unit in Colorado to which he had been ordered. Well, here are the facts: First, there is no instance of Lt. BMedush disobeying lawful orders in reporting for a physical, as none would be given. Pilots are scheduled for their annual flight physicals in their birth month during that month's weekend drill assembly — the only time the clinic is open. In the Reserves, it is not uncommon to miss this deadline by a month or so for a variety of reasons: The clinic is closed that month for special training; the individual is out of town on civilian business; etc. If so, the pilot is grounded temporarily until he completes the physical. Also, the formal drug testing program was not instituted by the Air Force until the 1980s and is done randomly by lot, not as a special part of a flight physical, when one easily could abstain from drug use because of its date certain. Blood work is done, but to ensure a healthy pilot, not confront a drug user. Second, there was no such thing as a "disciplinary unit in Colorado" to which Lt. Bush had been ordered. The Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver is a repository of the paperwork for those no longer assigned to a specific unit, such as retirees and transferees. Mine is there now, so I guess I'm "being disciplined." These "disciplinary units" just don't exist. Any discipline, if required, is handled within the local squadron, group or wing, administratively or judicially. Had there been such an infraction or court-martial action, there would be a record and a reflection in Lt. Bush's performance review and personnel folder. None exists, as was confirmed in The Washington Post in 2000. Finally, the Kerrys, Moores and McAuliffes are casting a terrible slander on those who served in the Guard, then and now. My Guard career parallels Lt. Bush's, except that I stayed on for 33 years. As a guardsman, I even got to serve in two campaigns. In the Cold War, the air defense of the United States was borne primarily by the Air National Guard, by such people as Lt. Bush and me and a lot of others. Six of those with whom I served in those years never made their 30th birthdays because they died in crashes flying air-defense missions. While most of America was sleeping and Mr. Kerry was playing antiwar games with Hanoi Jane Fonda, we were answering 3 a.m. scrambles for who knows what inbound threat over the Canadian subarctic, the cold North Atlantic and the shark-filled Gulf of Mexico. We were the pathfinders in showing that the Guard and Reserves could become reliable members of the first team in the total force, so proudly evidenced today in Afghanistan and Iraq. It didn't happen by accident. It happened because back at the nadir of Guard fortunes in the early '70s, a lot of volunteer guardsman showed they were ready and able to accept the responsibilities of soldier and citizen — then and now. Lt. Bush was a kid whose congressman father encouraged him to serve in the Air National Guard. We served proudly in the Guard. Would that Mr. Kerry encourage his children and the children of his colleague senators and congressmen to serve now in the Guard. In the fighter-pilot world, we have a phrase we use when things are starting to get out of hand and it's time to stop and reset before disaster strikes. We say, "Knock it off." So, Mr. Kerry and your friends who want to slander the Guard: Knock it off.
• Barry from Sauquoit, Ny On October 26th 1969, "Fortunate Son" by C.C.R. entered Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart at position #58; and on November 16th, 1969 it was at #14 and after Nov. 16 Billboard combined it with the record's A-side, "Down On the Corner"... And on December 14th, 1969 "Down on the Corner" b/w "Fortunate Son" peaked at #3 for one week... The quartet had eight other Top 10 records, with five of them peaking at #2... Tom Fogerty passed away on September 6th, 1990 at the young age of 48... May he R.I.P.
• Camille from Toronto, Oh Here it is 2013, and this is still a rockin' song. I love the way Fogerty wails on this tune. You'll always have a multitude of people feel like they 'ain't no fortunate son'. That, along with the vocals and awesome guitar playing, are the reasons this song stands the test of time.
• Victor from Youngstown, Oh Having heard the song in the 60's and then hearing it many years later, it dawned on that the song was really about Al Gore, He enlisted to serve in the war, but when it came time they sent him to Nam to be a "journalist" . He went there in January and returned home in May of the same year. He only went there to help his father win an election.
• Jpep from Bham, Al Nixon was not the President when this song was written, LBJ was. Bill Clinton is a fortunate son.
• Rachel from Bailey, Co This song was written in part due to a response about Eisenhower's grandson marrying Nixon's daughter. CCR felt these types of people would never get involved in the Vietnam War. It was meant to symbolize the frustrations by the common man who had just been drafted.
• Wayne from N Las Vegas, Nv I don't know who decided that people protesting the unfairness of the draft system was less patriotic than those who fought in the war. I guess their brains can't handle concepts greater than one dimension. I always thought a patriot fought for the country not the government.
• Ken from Philadelphia, Pa I have to laugh at the morons trying to spin the meaning of this song after it was used to such great effect to embarass their boy and, while it didn't help get him booted out of office, at least it will help ensure that he will go down in history as the worst president in the history of our republic. Look the guy who wrote the song... I think we can agree that he probably knows what it was about... spent much of 2004 barnstorming across the country playing it for anyone who would listen in hopes of getting them to see the light and vote the "Fortunate Son" out of office. Just because he didn't quite reach of his goal, doesn't change the fact that John Fogerty certainly knows what his own song was about.
• Ernest from Chicago, Ak i hate music class its the only reason im studying this
• Joel from Beliot, Wi I heard this song done as a duet by Bruce Springsteen and John Fogerty on a television special and was blown away. On a side note they also covered (Oh) Pretty Woman.
• Myrnaloy from La Bana, Ga I agree with you 100% Brian from Grand Forks, ND. I too know it's a music board but I can't keep quiet either. Having been around during the Vietnam War I have to agree with Brian, this song was talking about GWBush Jr., there was talk about it everywhere back in the late 60's & early 70's. So it's NOT about Al Gore and the similarities with this song and the War in Iraq are purely coincidental. Brian is right, he was a deserter because he never showed up for duty in the guard. So Jonathan from KY, get your story straight before you start trying to make Bush Jr. look like a hero. The biography of GWBush is rightly titled "Fortunate Son". If you want more information about his "service" in the National Guard, or lack of, look up MoonScapes by Elizabeth Moon or go to president-bush.com. Bush Sr. started Desert Storm when his son Jr. was involved in the Savings and Loan Scandal in Texas back in the 80's, to take attention away from Jr. because he was going to be indicted & face jail term but instead....we make him PRESIDENT. Just look up "The Bush Family & the Savings & Loan Scandal" on google. The S&L Scandal was due to the de-regulation of the savings and loan banks back during Reagan's REGIME. Does ANYONE see similarities to THAT & what happened on WALL ST? Wake up people!!!! This Nation is ASLEEP!!!!
• Bob from Berkeley, Ca This song is playing in one scene in the 1980 movie "Melvin and Howard," where it has no connection with the dialogue and the action. Maybe the director just wanted as many people as possible to hear this GREAT SONG!
• John from Grand Island, Ny Clearly CCR's best and one of the best rock songs ever.
• Nick from Seattle, Albania This riff rules! so rock! btw...CCR > the Stones
• Jessica from Tulsa, Ok I freakin LOVE this song. Great story, and great music. Just LOVE it.
• Nick from _, Pa Great song! I love this song, wish I could hear it more often. As far as the "this song definately applies to the war in Iraq" bit goes, you are wrong. There are those of us who signed up with the military, not because of money issues. All of us knew what we were getting into when we signed up, still we proudly serve. I would appreciate it if those who make those referances would stop. Espescially those who have not served and those who have never been deployed. Go blog it some where else. CCR ROCKS! -SGT, 1st Army, Baghdad-
• Theresa from Murfreesboro, Tn This song has a great and blunt message, John Fogerty is awesome.
• Steve from Garland, Tx Hey, Jake from Plattsburgh: that was TOM Fogerty who died in 1990. As of today (4/22/09), JOHN Fogerty is alive and well.
• Jake from Plattsburgh, Ny hey allen from some place,ak Fogerty died in 1990. so theres no way of he played at the superbowl.
• David from Miami, Fl This song is not anti-war or anti-Vietnam as much as it's "anti-freeloader". VERSE ONE: concerns those who verbally support the war as long as it's you, and not them, fighting it. VERSE TWO: concerns those who DO NOT support the war but still enjoy the fruits of this country, such as the rich who masquerade as working class people, trust-funded hippies, and the Haight-Ashbury counterculture. They enjoy the benefits of this country but when it comes time to pay the bills, it's you, not them, who has to pay the taxes. Take some of Obama's recent cabinet appointments for example. VERSE THREE: is about high ranking military leaders who only ask for more and more troops, refusing to face the possibility we have little hope of success. Put those three groups together and you probably have 95% of the people who live in this country. It's really funny to see the anti-Bush people bandwagon on this song, especially when there's a high probability they qualify as verse two freeloaders.
• Sphinx from Phinix, Az It is a awesome song!!!
• Dale from Middletown, De John Kerry did not spend no where near the time that most men spent in Vietnam. I love the guitar riff in the beginning of this song. ccr rocks!!!!
• Ekristheh from Halath, United States Wow, Saul Zaentz gets around, doesn't he?... He also owns the the film, stage, and merchandise rights for the J.R.R. Tolkien estate.
• Robin from Chattanooga, Tn I have a review of the John Fogerty Revival tour concert at Nashville's Ryman Auditorium Dec.5 2007 posted at www.ArtFRONT.com/ConcertReviews.htm Among a lot of other more musical things this article discusses "Fortunate Son" and it's relevance to the current political climate and observes a couple of young Iraq war era military types response to the song. The article also compares The Stones and Robert Plant with Fogerty and there's a bit about being a young kid in 1970 listening to all their music. Then the article links up with this here page You are reading now. Not bad for an old guy eh? ~R.
• Jin from Oz, Ks I still think this applies today. Sure we don't have the draft, but the price of college is very high, and with the army waving full tutition under your nose, who needs the draft? College use to be a way to get out of the army. Now the army is the way to get into college. Unless your a fourtunate son.
• Dav from Ft Lauderdale, Fl Todd Snider just released an incredible blues version on his new CD Peace Queer
• Cameron from Austin, Tx you know only three United States Senators have sons that have done tours in Iraq. 2 democrats, Tim Johnson of South Dakota and Jim Webb of Virgina, and one Republican, John McCain. It just goes to show most of the "fortunate sons" don't have to worry about going to war. This is such a great song and its a sad truth
• Steve from Binghamton, Ny Fogerty not owning the rights explains a lot... I absolutely could not figure out why Kerry's campaign did not use this song as an ad in 2004; most of the nation could connect the dots real well, and there is hardly anyone of voting age who has not heard this song.
• Chris from Brisbane, Australia This band took great influence from an older but not to popular band named Dr. Spangle. The singer of this band "Mitchell Roland", helped to strengthen John Fogerty's vocal range
• Mel from Riverbank, Ca So many disagreements on whether this is a patriotic song or not.. Personally I think it is, CCR was commenting on a problem that is even 40 years later still a problem in the world. I think it really depends on what you think is patriotic. Love of your country doesn't have to preclude acknowledging it's faults or demanding change where needed, I think in that sense Fortunate Son is absolutely patriotic, championing the Average American. If one is of the mindset that to be a patriot doesn't have leave room for disagreement or change, only blind loyalty, then no, I guess one would not find this a 'patriotic' song. I'd be interested to hear Mr Fogerty's opinions on the relevance of 'Fortunate Son' in today's America.
• Martin Sheen from Saigon, -- An Anti-war song
• Kaylee from Chicago, Il Martijn, Helmond, Netherlands...You suggest that the Bush administration knew and purposely allowed the deaths of hundreds of Americans purely so that we could have a reason to go to war? My best friends father was killed in the second tower, I was sitting next to her as we watched the building collapse. This song in no way relates and has absolutely nothing to do with the war in Iraq. It is about the Vietnam War and the draft involved. Please keep comments about blame for 9-11 out of here. Thanks.
• Mark from Byrdstown, Tn Yeah the CCR and Rolling Stones thing is total BS.Fogerty and CCR had to copy no one.....they were totally original and their music is far superior to anything the Stones did. Who cant help but think of the mess in Iraq and little rich boy GW Bush when they hear this song?
• Joshua from Pittsboro, Nc Great song I love CCR there the best. This songs not a protest against the Vietnam war its a a protest against the draft, and how "Fortunate son's" got out of the draft. quit using this song to write about your own Political opinons. This is not a blog go get your own website.
• Tim from Deer Park, Oh song reminds me of fun time at the little miami river w/ friends good times (sigh)
• Junaid from Islamabad it is used in movie "Live Free,or Die Hard " when Bruce Willis driving with Justin Long and Bruce Willis turned on classic radio station . It also played in the end credits of the movie.
• Cory from C-town, Oh this song is amazing. its by far the best song in the movie forest gump =]
• Jody Olthoff from Cheney, Ks CCR is the best band of all time!
• Jody from Cheney, Ks CCR is the best band ever, all of their music rocks
• Chrissy from West Islip, Ny During the Vietnam War, 234 sons of Congressman were drafted. Out of the 234, only 28 were actually sent to Vietnam and zero were killed.
• Brian from Dennis, Ma does anyone else think this song is kleshe IN VIETNAM MOVIES? i love the song, but its used too much as a movie song
• Aaron from Manistee, Mi Seriously. Riche kids dont have to serve. I come from a poor family and Im almost certain Ill have to go in the service when I graduate.
• Mike from Hueytown , Al John just tells it like it is . Great Song. Not only is George W a fortunate son is also a murder of hundreds of American troops and Iraqi civilians.
• Bill from Queens, Ny The anti-war song "Fortunate Son" by John Fogarty of Creedance Clearwater Revival also inspired a book by the same title. Ironically, the author of the book was Lewis B. Puller, Jr., the son of the legendary General "Chesty" Puller, the most decorated U.S. Marine in American military history and a genuine hero during World War II and the Korean War. Lewis tried to follow in his father's footsteps, but a landmine in Vietnam cut Lewis's military career short. The young marine officer lost both legs, both hands, and his body was riddled with shrapnel. Miraculously, young Lewis survived to run for Congress, lead a campaign against the Vietnam War, and write a Pulitzer Prize-winning book, which he bitterly titled FORTUNATE SON. On May 11, 1994, Lewis committed suicide. He was the son a famous general, but ultimately he was no fortunate son. God bless and keep you, Lewis.
• Spencer from Las Vegas, Nv Kyle you are 100% correct. John FOGERTY (that to Caren who spelled it FOGARTY) was not a hippie. He was in the Army. I don't know what you mean when you say a beast song, though...
• Tammy from Nashville, Tn For all of you who are bickering about Bush and Clinton and everything else that have nothing to do with this song, you need to go over to the message boards. This is for comments on the song....what it means to you, etc.....not for debating. Read the Comment Guidelines. I love this song and I think it's CCR's best.
• Stefanie from Rock Hill, Sc Yeah, this song is definitely about how senators' sons didn't have to experience the war like regular U.S. soldiers did. They were either exempt or got safer assignments. Because of this, and the fact that some believe the government of the U.S. didn't do a good jub in Iraq, this definitely applies to what's going on today in Iraq.
• Jim from Saginaw, Mi this is in response to all you people that claim that U.S. government knew about 9/11 and/or they were behind it. Expescially Martijn, Helmond, Netherlands blaming our government for something that had no personal effect on your country. Fortunate Son was about how all of the sons of the polictical leaders were given cushy jobs in the vietnam war, which we wouldn't have been in if it wasn't for our allie france which was in control of vietnam. This is a great song and it sickens me that people are completely taking it out of contexts and connecting it with the war in Iraq. This song was about vietnam NOT about Iraq.
• Erin from Houston, Tx This song reminds of the conflict in America over the Vietnam War. He says that "some people are born made to wave the star spangled flag," which I think refers to politicians. "It ain't me, I ain't no Senator's son... I ain't no fortunate one." This is a reference to how people with connections were exempt from the draft during the war or were given safer assignments. "Some folks are born silver spoon in hand Well, they help themselves, yeah When the taxman comes to the door House looks a like a rummage sale." How the already rich get richer, yet evade having to pay like average citizens. "Some folks inherit star spangled eyes Yeah, when they send you down to war Well, when you ask them how much you should give Yeah, it's always more, more, more" Star spangled eyes are the idealistic politicians who supported the war and began the draft process, yet had no personal experience of knowledge of what was really happening in Vietnam. How much should you give? Could mean monetary contributions, but also those that volunteered to fight the war and still they instituted the draft to draw more men into fight. I did read that Fogerty wrote this song after hearing about the elaborate wedding of Nixon's daughter to another politically connected groom. It was extrememly elaborate and cost an extreme amount of money. This happened at a time when many men were dying as young men on the battlefield. The contrast between the rich (Nixon) and the poor (Vietnam troops, the rest of America grieving over their losses) is very prominent in this song...
• Dan from New York, Ny theres bound to be a connection between CCR and the Stones, because theyre both early rock and roll bands, and most, if not all of those bands were blues-influenced, so they all have similar structures. i've never consciously noticed the connection though
• Sean2567 from Beverly Hills, De i think i view this song differently then some of you. i think that the song is more about things you dont whant to do but have to. like do dishes, rich people dont do dishes, i know its about war. but i dont think it has any negetives about america, sure some thing we dont whant to do but have to and its not always a bad thing im a republican and i love this song becouse i view it differently and becouse its a great song.my country of birth is israel,and over there you have to join the millitary at 18 years of age,not everyone whants to go but it not a bad thing when you do something for your country rich or poor so somethimes we are all unfutunate ones.
• Caren from Detroit Area, Mi wondering how you're disagreeing with me, John... Fogarty ought to be the poster child for the American conscience.
• John from Kalamazoo, Ky now to disagree with caren. Fogerty was an American legend.
• John from Kalamazoo, Ky this should be the national anthem
• Sean Harris from Hatfield, Pa this song is covered by Pearl Jam on their 05/03/03 state college show. Fogerty is a TRUE American for writing this song. Also Forest Gump Soundtrack...Amazing!
• Caren from Detroit Area, Mi Regarding Bartholomew's comment: "I hate to say it, but John Fogerty was a down-right hippie," what exactly is wrong with THAT?! Hippies renounced the greed of corporate industry, the lack of responsiveness and accountability of the U.S. government, and the immorality of the Vietnam War. Fogarty set those beliefs to music and helped bring them to the attention of a generation of Americans.
• Michael from Atlanta, Ga Actually this song is very patriotic. Like the one comment said, to question a government's actions of sending its people to fight a war, that is more patriotic than just following along like a mindless robot. Where the american revolutionaries patriotic when they rebelled against British government?
• Tj from Woodbridge, Va also in Forest Gump. "hi im forest, forest gump." it is in the scene where the helicopter comes in when there at the camp.
• Larry_the_duck from Los Angeles, Ca Hello: I am Larry the Duck Los Angeles CA. Earlier in this thread a mention was made about John Fogerty not owning the publishing rights to this song "Fortunate Son." Currently Fogerty still does not have full ownership to the publishing rights of the songs he penned as a member of CCR under the Fantasy Records label that was in the control of the pus-bag Saul Zaentz. Zaentz no longer owns Fantasy Records since selling the label to Concord Music Group, co-owned by the legendary television and movie producer Norman Lear. Although Fogerty doesn't own the songs outright he does have control of how the use of his songs in the catalog can and cannot be used. On September 9, 2005 it was announced: "After more than three decades, John Fogerty, one of the most important songwriters of all time, has returned to Fantasy Records." On November , 2005 Fantasy/Concord released "The Long Road Home â?? The Ultimate John Fogerty · Creedence Collection", an aptly titled disc that honors the icon's musical journey from his early career to today. Fogerty just completed a full year of touring with his new band. Look for a concert DVD recorded at the Wiltern Theater in Los Angeles in early 2006.
• Ozzzy from Sydney, Australia Do you really think the children of the rich fight the war in Iraq?
• Bridgett from Fort Worth, Tx I do not see how you can equate Fortunate Son with the war in Iraq. The Vietnam War drafted young men. The troops in Afghanastan and Iraq are strictly volunteer. These young men are willing serving their country. Rather you agree with the war, or Bush's actions, you must remember these young men and women volunteered to ensure our freedom or flow of oil, how ever you may view it.
• Martijn from Helmond, Netherlands It is becoming more and more clear that the Bush administration knew about the terrorist plans to hi-jack planes well before 9-11 but that they allowed it to happen because it would cause a 'new Pearl Harbor' that would given them a pretext to go ahead with their plans of re-militarization and of a war in Iraq to secure oil fields in the Middle East for the USA. In that respect the present war resembles the war in Vietnam, which was entered into by the US armed forces on a false pretext (an attack by North Vietnam of an American warship that never actually took place.)
• Brad from Indianapolis, In If you buy into the illusion of the difference between the Dems and the Reps, then you miss the point of the song. The gang in charge will fight wars as they wish, and you, the people who live in their turf, will be the cannon fodder.
• Tim from Dalton, Ma Hey Brandon, maybe you didn't see the picture of Kerry's daughter going out on a campaign stop with a completely see through dress, and oh I mean completely...you shouldn't be talking about the twins
• Brandon from Bel Air, Ca This song is uber-cool. It most definitely is timeles. A true testament agaisnt the children of the big mucky mucks of the vietnam war era to the SlutBushTwins. If the day comes when the SlutBushTwins enlist to fight the war their daddy started agaisnt an innocent country (and its people) I will gladly eat my chapeau. Until that time I rejoice in listening to anti-establishment music and just hope this sham Iraqi war finally ends.
• James from Bridgeport, Ct Kerry was indeed a fortunate son in most aspects of his life, but in terms of his vietnam service he didn't get off easy like many others. Kerry was there and was actually in the thick of battle.
• John from Boston, Ma I hate how this is such a political board. Don't give me this crap that Bush is a "Fortunate Son" and Kerry isn't. Every politican is a "Fortunate Son", it's by definition. This song is about the lower class, and the stubborn pride of it. That's the way I think of this song, you can have any interpetation you want, but just don't give me the crap that Brian in Grand Forks or where ever in ND gave me. What about your beloved Kerry and all the bull he got away with because of his status, or Clinton, or every other politician...
• Jake from Berkeley Heights, Nj bush smoked pot too buddy
• Martin from Sydney, Australia Featured in the opening soundtrack for the game 'Battlefield Vietnam'. The name is also used for a biography of George W Bush.
• Scott from Naf Atsugi, Japan Wow, everyone seems to be pointing out GW Bush's "dodging" the Vietnam War. What about the beloved Bill Clinton? He went to England for college and to smoke pot. Why didn't he go to Vietnam? While it appears to be true Bush was absent from his duties in the Air National Guard(it depends on who you ask as to the reasons for this)he did at least serve in the military unlike Clinton. Also, he flew F-102s, one squadron of F-102s was sent to Vietnam early in the conflict. After one was shot down and none were able to engage MIG fighters, the type was pulled back to America as defense against Russian bombers. Bush never would have gone due to this.
• Bob from Wilmington, De Political stuff aside, "Fortunate Son" was great rock and roll MUSIC! The opening guitar riffs, the nice steady bass line. and the kicking drums are what I like most about the song. I respect Fogerty's opinion on the Vietnam war and the apparent inconsistencies of draft board policies back in that era. But mostly I just like the music. By the way, I think the Afghanistan/Iraq/Middle East situation is completely different from Vietnam. WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO HAVE THE TWIN TOWERS DESTROYED, THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS DID. I don't remember the Viet Cong doing anything like 9/11 in the USA! -Bob, Wilmington, Delaware
• Sumner from Paragould, Ak Bush is basically doing a replay of Vietnam. I'm tired of the government and the right-wing establishment blaming the Arts for all its problems when they're the problem themselves. Fortunate Son- Greatest left-wing ever, ranked right up there with The Door's "Unknown Soldier."
• Dave from Elmira, Ny This is a great song. Speaking of facts it reminds me of the draft dodger in the whitehouse;also a fortunate son.
• Jonathan from Lexington, Ky It has been documented that G.W. Bush volunteered for duty in Vietnam twice but was turned down in favor of more experienced pilots because he didn't have enough flight hours. No, Michael Moore and Dan Rather forgot to mention this fact (along with a lot of others, and the facts they did mention were mostly made up.) Bush tried to go so he could do his duty. How many of you lefties can say the same?
• Charles from Augusta,, Ga Former VP Dan Quayle was also a "Fortunate Son"
• Jordan from Ontario, Canada included on the Forest Gump soundtrack...quite possibly the best soundtrack ever.
• Allen from Some Place, Ak Fogerty sung this at the 2005 Super Bowl pre-game show.
• Kelsey from Wilmington, Nc You can apply this song to our nation now and it still makes perfect sense
• Jim from Pearland, Tx "Its stupid that some people think this is a patriotic song." - blake, Kennesaw, GA, USA "To question your country's policy, especially in a war that kills people, is definitely not un-American. It's probably the most patriotic thing you can do." - John Fogerty
• Blake from Kennesaw, Ga, Usa Its stupid that some people think this is a patriotic song.
• Bartholemew from Cork, Ireland I hate to say it, but John Fogerty was a down-right hippie.
• Erik from Oc, Ca The "senators son" in this song is Al Gore.
• Charlie from Thomaston, Ct my fav CCR tune
• Tyler from Hamilton, Canada Seger actually released this song on the Like a rock Cd. all other artists who covered it have simply performed it in concert, not released it.
• Max from Ottawa, Canada This song was covered by Wyclef Jean for the 2004 version of "The Manchurian Candidate". It appears during the opening credits. During the opening, they credit the song to being written by John Fogerty.
• Brian from Grand Forks, Nd Brett from Brooklyn... This is a Music Discussion board but I can't stay quiet... Yes, Flying combat aircraft is a dangerous business but I would say that Vietnam is Much MORE dangerous... The Truth of the matter is many people tried to get into the national guard to avoid overseas duty... Here's the Truth... George W. Was able to get into Texas Air National Guard just 2 weeks before getting Drafted... Bush was accepted the same day that he applied... Jumping over around 500 applicants... Some of those on the list for over a year... During his time with the Air National Guard.. He was suspended for refusal to take a required physical... His original records were flagged with the notation PI... Which stood for Political Influence... And that PI status helped him out in 1972 after it was obvious that George W. just plain stopped showing up... He was not seen around the Texas Air National Guard for almost 9 months during that year... Bush was then designated a deserter... And the matter was swept under the carpet... It seems that George W. Was a FORTUNATE ONE or FORTUNATE SON...
• Brett from Brooklyn, Ny The president flew in the Air National Gaurd and this has been proven. Old news. At least he served - flew jets (F-102's). While flying combat aircraft sounds all glamerous it's a dangerous business and many pilots die every year during training and in accidents. By the way several Air National Gaurd units where sent to Vietnam (such as the New Mexico ANG with F-100 super Sabres). If they federlized the TX ANG he would have went over. The tye of aircraft he flew was ill suited for Vietnam, it being an air defense inteceptor.
• Raja from Austin, Tx You want to know what this song is about? Look at our current President (W) and what he did during the Vietnam War. Or should I say, what he didn't have to do?
• Brandon from Seattle, Wa Besides the connection between "Honky Tonk Women" and "Down on the Corner" both having choruses that feature multiple voices singing in unison. The intros are similar, listen to the way the cowbells are used. And, both songs are sung in similar beat. But, there are not many similarities with these two songs. But, however, they're both great songs.
• Brett from Edmonton, Canada I see the similiarity between "Fortunate Son" and "Jumpin' Jack Flash". They both have those twinging guitar notes, rolling chorouses, they both have titles that refer to a male ("Jack" and "Son"), they both have autobiographical lyrics ("Jack": "I was born in a crossfire hurricane" and "Son": "I ain't no fortunate son..."), etc. I don't see the connection of "Down on the Corner" to "Honky Tonk Women", however, except that they both have chorouses that feature multiple voices singing in unison.
• Ryan from Tucson, Az The Stones and CCR were both great bands, and all great bands might sound alike ever once in a while, listen to some of the the songs now a days, I Can't tell any of the bands apart, can you?
• Brandon from Seattle, Wa The only similarities I see between the Stones and Creedence songs are that the songs have a similar rock sound, especially with the intros, but the intros were not copied. Yhere was not any plagiarism and the connection ends there.
• John from Alexandria, Ky. "Similarities, What Similarities?"
• Brandon from Seattle, Wa "Fortunate Son" was later covered by Bob Seger. Bob Seger also covered a song that is similar to this one lyrically called: "2 + 2 = ?", but I never heard it.
• Brandon from Seattle, Wa Well, I'm not saying "Fortunate Son" was influenced (or copied for that matter) by "Jumping Jack Flash", vice versa with "Down On The Corner" and "Honky Tonk Women." I just see a little music similarity. Don't ge me wrong, I love the Creedeence tunes, I just find them to be a little similar, that's all I'm saying.
• Brian from Paoli, In Dude I think you are taking the Stones and CCR connection a little too far.
• Brandon from Seattle, Wa Like "Down On The Corner" is to "Honky Tonk Women", "Fortunate Son" is to "Jumping Jack Flash." I am not sure if there was any actual influence between these Stones and CCR hits, but there is definitely a musical reference in them somewhere.

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by SOPHIE PENDRILL, WPEC staff

A 50-foot yacht caught fire on Saturday in Clearwater Harbor, Fla. (USCG)

CLEARWATER, Fla. (WPEC) — A 50-foot yacht caught fire on Saturday in Florida's Clearwater Harbor.

The U.S. Coast Guard stated that a good Samaritan brought two boaters from the yacht to the Clearwater Harbor Marina to report the fire and meet emergency medical services.

After the fire was reported, the USCG and partners began to put the fire out.

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Passengers on board doomed Bayesian yacht frantically scrambled for last air pockets as boat sank

• Jonathan Rose
• Juliana Cruz Lima
• Published : 19:51 ET, Aug 24 2024
• Updated : 19:59 ET, Aug 24 2024
• Published : Invalid Date,

PASSENGERS on board the doomed Bayesian superyacht frantically scrambled for the last air pockets as the boat sank.

British tech mogul Mike Lynch and his 18-year-old daughter Hannah were among six people recovered after the luxury vessel sank near Porticello at about 5am local time on Monday.

The body of Canadian-Antiguan national Recaldo Thomas, who was working as a chef on the superyacht, was recovered at the scene on Monday.

Morgan Stanley International bank chairman Jonathan Bloomer, his wife Judy Bloomer, Clifford Chance lawyer Chris Morvillo and his wife Neda Morvillo were also recovered from the wreckage.

Prosecutors have since opened a manslaughter and shipwreck inquiry without naming any suspects.

On Saturday, they pieced together the horrifying final minutes on board the sinking £30million vessel.

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And for the first time, emergency service workers and divers also discussed in full the complicated five-day rescue attempt that took place 160 feet below the waters near Porticello, Sicily .

Divers from the specialised fire brigade cave rescue team described in dramatic detail the extraordinary challenges they faced more than 50m below the surface.

The 30 divers were only allowed to visit the seafloor for 12-minute bursts, every day from sunrise until sunset.

A few of the divers were also participating in the doomed Costa Concordia liner's 2012 recovery.

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The head of the Palermo fire department and member of the divers' rescue squad, Bentivoglio Fiandra, described how the Bayesian sank stern-first before rolling onto its right side.

He explained: "As a result, the victims sought refuge on the left side of the boat, where the last air pockets remained as the vessel was sinking."

In the first cabin on the left, the divers discovered five bodies; in the third chamber on the left, they discovered Hannah's.

The fact that everything was on its side in the boat required the divers to "recalibrate," Mr Fiandra said.

Rescuers also had to get used to debris floating around and mirrors reflecting their torch lights back at them.

He explained: "We had to revise the scene from a different angle from the way we'd normally see it, and that made everything more difficult.

"We entered the confined spaces, having already performed evaluations on the safe point to enter inside the yacht.

"We found the safest spot and got inside from there.

"But inside it was a very confusing place, with wardrobes and furniture whirling all around us, and lots of mirrors reflecting back our lights at us.

"The bodies were all wedged in tight spots, with furniture on top or beside them. They were all stuck there."

Giuseppe Frison, Head of the Department of the Fire Fighters' Divers, leading the cave divers, told the Daily Mail :

"It was like visiting someone's house turned at 90 degrees, with everything on its side.

"Since everything was revolving around us, we had to proceed slowly, first securing floating items for safety.

"We operated methodically, whether the spaces were large or small, searching everywhere until we found what we were looking for."

He added: "We were in a room full of debris, with a mixture of wooden furniture and other objects, but there was this new factor, as the space was full of mirrors, making it very disorientating, as you enter with the light on our heads, you seem to see yourself coming toward the boat, so it was very confusing."

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It comes as the captain and crew of sunk superyacht Bayesian are facing a manslaughter and homicide probe after seven on board died including Brit tech tycoon Mike Lynch and his daughter.

Chief Prosecutor Ambrogio Cartosio said the victims would have been asleep when the freak weather struck at around 5am local time on Monday last week, leaving them unable to escape.

It was also revealed that the crew and captain were not tested for alcohol or drug use after the sinking and have no legal requirement to stay in  Sicily .

At the Termini Imerese Courthouse in Palermo, Mr Cartosio said there may have been “behaviours that were not perfectly in order with regard to the responsibility everybody had”.

He added: “There could be in fact the question of homicide. But this is the beginning of the inquiry, we cannot exclude anything at all.”

Mr Cartosio added one line of inquiry was whether the crew attempted to raise the alarm with passengers before getting on the lifeboat and escaping.

He vowed to “discover how much they (the crew) knew and to what extent all the people (passengers) were warned.”

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He said: “We will establish each element’s (crew) responsibility. For me, it is probable that offences were committed — that it could be a case of manslaughter.”

The prosecutor added that  Captain James Cutfield  had been “extremely cooperative” during questioning and will be quizzed further.

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Watch terrifying moment waterspouts batter Italian coast on same day Bayesian yacht was sunk by ‘Black Swan’ sea twister

• Owen Leonard
• Published : 17:20, 21 Aug 2024
• Updated : 9:01, 22 Aug 2024
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FRIGHTENING footage has emerged of a waterspout lashing the Italian coast on the same day the Bayesian sank.

The superyacht was ensnared by a "Black Swan" sea twister off Sicily and capsized, leading to tragedy for those on board.

Now vision from the same day has surfaced of tourists running away as a huge waterspout - which acts like a tornado, but over the sea - sends umbrellas flying and sun-loungers sprinting.

Video shows a vortex strike a beach in Italy's Campania region, north of Sicily, creating chaos for beachgoers.

A mother runs to safety, cradling her child amid anarchy as objects are hurled in all directions.

It wasn't the only waterspout captured on film, with more video circulating in the wake of the Bayesian disaster .

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A beach in the Basilicata region also showed a twister tear by the sands.

Blue skies ominously fade to darkness as it approaches, before holidaymakers run for their lives.

Luckily, it took a different path before simply dissolving away.

Authorities on Sunday warned bad weather was approaching Italy's southern regions.

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They urged sailors to return to ports, while red flags were put up at beaches.

Another waterspout is believed to be the culprit behind the Bayesian sinking .

It capsized and descended to its doom when the wild weather struck Porticello Harbour near Palermo in Sicily at around 5am on Monday.

Marine experts told  The Times  how the freak waterspout would have caused hefty damage to the £14million boat, causing it to plunge underwater.

Matthew Schanck, chairman of the Maritime Search and Rescue Council, said: "Looking at the extreme weather, if it was a waterspout, which it appears to be, it's what I would class as like a Black Swan event.

"And if the waterspout ends up dumping a load of that water on board the vessel, that’s going to cause significant damage."

Fifteen people managed to escape the sinking as they clung onto lifeboats, but others weren't as fortunate.

It comes as...

• The bodies of  Mike Lynch  & his daughter Hannah, 18,  were recovered  from the sunken superyacht
•  Another two bodies were found in the search for the missing passengers
•   Lynch's shell-shocked wife  revealed how she was  awoken by a 'tilt'  as the yacht sank
•  The  captain of the Bayesian  broke his silence on the horror storm and was  quizzed by cops for over two hours
•  Experts believe the yacht's ' tallest mast in the world ' may have contributed to the disaster after a  freak ‘Black Swan’ weather event struck
•  Pictures showed the  tiny raft that saved up to 15 people
•   Frantic text messages  from the survivors revealed the chaos

Five bodies have since been found , including tech tycoon Mike Lynch and daughter Hannah, as well as yacht chef Ricardo Thomas - though only four recovered and one remains missing.

Officials said some bodies were trapped by mattresses inside a cabin, La Repubblica reports.

A further pair of missing passengers were then discovered but are yet to be recovered from the sunken vessel, sources say.

The search has been made difficult by depth, with the wreck sitting on the seabead 50 metres below the surface.

Powerful water pressure at levels that deep has restricted divers to short 12-minute intervals scouring the debris.

Among the survivors is Mike Lynch's wife Angela Baceras, 57, who reportedly remained in a "state of shock" on Wednesday in a hotel near the site of the sinking.

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South African hostesses Leah Randall, 20, and Katja Chicken, 22, were also staying at a Sicily hotel alongside fellow survivors.

Leah's mum Heidi told  Sky News  she was "beyond relieved" to hear her "daughter's life was spared by the grace of God".=

What is a waterspout?

A waterspout is a whirlwind of air and water mist, according to the National Ocean Service.

The waterspout behind the Bayesian sinking is categorised as a "tornadic" waterspout.

These act in the same way as land tornadoes, causing paths of destruction.

They can form during severe thunderstorms with high winds, strong hail and dangerous lightning.

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Divers recover 5 bodies from wrecked superyacht off sicily; 1 still missing.

PORTICELLO, Sicily (AP) — Divers searching the wreck of a superyacht that sank off Sicily found the bodies of five passengers Wednesday, leaving one still missing as questions intensified about why the vessel sank so quickly when a nearby sailboat remained largely unscathed.

Rescue crews brought four body bags ashore at Porticello. Salvatore Cocina, head of the Sicily civil protection agency, said a fifth body had been located. Divers on-scene said they would try to recover it on Thursday while continuing the search for the sixth.

The discovery made clear the operation to search the hull on the seabed 50 meters (164 feet) underwater had quickly turned into a recovery one, not a rescue, given the amount of time that had passed and with no signs of life over three days of searching.

The Bayesian, a 56-meter (184-foot) British-flagged yacht, went down in a storm early Monday as it was moored about a kilometer (a half-mile) offshore. Civil protection officials said they believed the ship was struck by a tornado over the water, known as a waterspout.

Fifteen people escaped in a lifeboat and were rescued by a nearby sailboat. The body of the ship’s chef, Recaldo Thomas of Antigua, was recovered Monday.

Thomas was born in Canada, according to his cousin David Isaac, but visited his parents’ homeland of Antigua as a child, and moved permanently to the tiny eastern Caribbean island in his early 20s. Italian officials previously listed Antigua and Canada as the nationality of people on board.

The fate of six missing passengers had driven the search effort, including British tech magnate Mike Lynch , his 18-year-old daughter and associates who had successfully defended him in a recent U.S. federal fraud trial.

Lynch’s spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

Meanwhile, Termini Imerese Public Prosecutor’s Office investigators were acquiring evidence for their criminal investigation, which they opened immediately after the tragedy despite no formal suspects having been publicly identified.

Questions have abounded about what caused the superyacht, built in 2008 by Italian shipyard Perini Navi, to rapidly sink, when the nearby Sir Robert Baden Powell sailboat was largely spared and managed to rescue the survivors.

Giovanni Costantino, head of The Italian Sea Group, which owns the ship maker, blamed human error for the disaster, which he said took 16 minutes. “The ship sank because it took on water. From where, the investigators will say,” he told RAI state television after he met with prosecutors.

Costantino cited AIS ship tracking data which he said showed the Bayesian had taken on water for four minutes when a sudden gust of wind flipped it and it continued taking on water. The ship straightened up slightly and then went down, he said.

But was it merely the case of a freak waterspout that knocked the ship to its side and allowed water to pour in through open hatches? What was the position of the keel, which on a large sailboat like the Bayesian might have been retractable to allow it to enter shallower ports?

“There’s a lot of uncertainty as to whether it had a lifting keel and whether it might have been up,” said Jean-Baptiste Souppez, a fellow of the Royal Institute of Naval Architects and the editor of the Journal of Sailing Technology. “But if it had, then that would reduce the amount of stability that the vessel had, and therefore made it easier for it to roll over on its side,” he said in an interview.

The captain of the sailboat that rescued survivors said his craft sustained minimal damage — the frame of a sun awning broke — even with winds that he estimated reached 12 on the Beaufort wind scale, which is the highest hurricane-strength force on the scale.

He said he had remained anchored with his engines running to try to maintain the ship’s position as the forecast storm rolled in.

“Another possibility is to heave anchor before the storm and to run downwind at open sea,” Karsten Borner said in a text message. But he said that might not have been possible for the Bayesian, given its trademark 75-meter (246-foot) tall mast.

“If there was a stability problem, caused by the extremely tall mast, it would not have been better at open sea,” he said.

Yachts like the Bayesian are required to have watertight, sub-compartments that are specifically designed to prevent a rapid, catastrophic sinking even when some parts fill with water.

The underwater search continued in dangerous and time-consuming conditions. Because of the wreck’s depth, which requires special precautions, divers working in pairs could only spend about 12 minutes at a time searching, though reinforcements outfitted with special equipment to enable longer dives were on the wreck Wednesday.

In all, some 27 divers took rotations, including four who helped with recovery after the 2012 Costa Concordia disaster off Tuscany. They called the Porticello wreck a “little Concordia,” fire crews said in a statement.

The limited dive time was aimed in part at avoiding decompression sickness, also known as the “bends,” which can occur when divers stay underwater for long periods and ascend too quickly, allowing nitrogen gas dissolved in the blood to form bubbles.

“The longer you stay, the slower your ascent has to be,” said Simon Rogerson, the editor of SCUBA magazine. He said the tight turnaround time suggested the operation’s managers were trying to limit the risks and recovery time after each dive.

“It sounds like they’re operating essentially on no decompression or very tight decompression, or they’re being extremely conservative,” he said.

Divers were also working with debris floating around them, limited visibility and air tanks on their backs.

“We are trying to advance in tight spaces, but any single thing slows us down,” said Luca Cari, spokesman for the fire rescue service. “An electric panel could set us back for five hours. These aren’t normal conditions. We’re at the limit of possibility.”

Winfield reported from Rome and Kirka from London. Associated Press journalists Trisha Thomas in Rome; Andrea Rosa in Porticello; and Anika Kentish in St. John’s, Antigua, contributed to this report.

This story has been corrected to reflect that Thomas was born in Canada, not Antigua.

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Kind lady working at reg alone today helped me at self checkout when all the machines were acting up. She was not rude at all i let her know i was in a hurry because im on my way to work and she was very understanding and helpful. Thank you. Often times workers come with attitude and make situations worse so i appreciate her positive energy.

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The candy and the food that they have is so unbelievably delicious with an ounce of goodness with each bite almost as good Willy Wonka's chocolate!! I even got the golden ticket!! The service is so freaking amazing I want to amputate each and eat it!!!

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Bad service I came here many time For this time !!!stuff at self checkout is terrible I ask for help because I can't fond item He told me about item so fast and talk with another stuff.He did not care about me to know number of item I ask he agin and he told me so quit and look at me like not friendly and he do like don't want to service me .....no service mind

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Lucky grocery store has its ups and downs. Their weekly specials are decent and can help you save, which is a positive. However, when compared to Safeway, I find that Lucky falls a bit short. Safeway's "five dollar Friday" deals and superior deli section really set it apart. Lucky is fine if you're in a hurry and need essentials, but if you're looking for more enticing deals and a wider range of deli options, you might want to stick with Safeway for a more satisfying shopping experience.

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This is the same supermarket chain that once had a store where Best Buy is now at El Camino and Bernardo, which closed permanently after hackers attached skimmers on the self service credit card reading machines, stealing and reusing hundreds of customer's credit card numbers. Rarely go to either the Luckys on Mathilda Ave, nor the one on El Camino Real next to the Fish Market, as Sprouts, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Target and Smart & Final closer and within walking distance of my house. I can tell when I've driven my car by looking at my credit card statements at purchases at Grocery Outlets or Lucky supermarkets, as those are the only times I need to drive my car, during the shelter-in-place era. April 8, Wednesday they had the weekly start of a sale on Atlantic salmon at $6.99 a pound, not quite as good as their previous Friday-Saturday-Sunday sales of whole fillets of Salmon at $5.99 a pound in late March. Heard that men have a 50% higher coronavirus death rate than women, so asked my wife to go to Lucky Thursday. Also she's an 'O' blood type, the least susceptible to the virus. No use in me playing Russian roulette with the virus, as I'm a 65+ male with underlying conditions, three strikes against me. She checked the specials, including the $1.67 for 6 ounce blackberries and raspberries. Told by the experts that the best time to do shopping during the pandemic is when stores first open, as fewest customers and fewest potential coronavirus carriers around. Wife interrupted her beauty rest, to get up at 7am. Luckys opens 6am-9am Tuesday and Thursday for seniors 65+, the disabled, and medical front line workers. Choice between Mathilda or El Camino Real. Last time she went to the Mathilda store, 2 miles but 11 traffic signals away, they were out of salmon, and it's in the sketchy part of town, with higher incidence of covid-19 cases. So she drives to El Camino Real, 3 miles away, 14 traffic signals, but bigger, cleaner, better lighting, with wider aisles, and more parking than the Mathilda store. The good thing is that our 2017 Honda Fit, loaded with battery draining electronics and computer, started instantly, for the first drive in 28 days. That was the last good thing that happened. 20 minutes later wife is back, totally pissed, vowing never to go to Luckys again. Driscoll's raspberries three 6 ounce packs for $5, limit 6, out of stock. Driscoll's blackberries, three 6 ounce packs for $5, limit 6, out of stock. Driscoll's strawberries, 1 lb pack for $5, limit 6, out of stock. Atlantic salmon whole fillet $6.99 a lb out of stock. She did buy broccoli crowns on sale at $1.77 a pound. Just goes to show that even the hoarders don't care for eating vegetables! Had to come back Tuesday at 4pm, driving our 2017 Honda Civic for the first time in 21 days, to get the raspberries, blackberries, strawberries, and salmon, but by then huge line at the only open checkout stand, while 5 other checkout stands not in use.

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