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The Albin Ballad 30 Sailboat

The Albin Ballad 30, a moderate-to-heavy displacement masthead sloop, was designed by Rolf Magnusson and built in Sweden by Albin Marine.

Albin Ballad 30: A Classic Cruiser-Racer

The Ballad 30 was designed as an International Offshore Rule (IOR) Half Ton class cruiser-racer, which means it was optimized for racing under a handicap system that measured various aspects of the boat's speed potential.

The design is an evolution of the Joker S30 IOR racer. The Ballad 30 was very successful in racing, winning several national and international championships in the 1970s.

Published Specification for the Albin Ballad 30

Underwater Configuration:   Fin with skeg-hung rudder

Hull Material:   GRP (fibreglass)

Length Overall:  29' 11" / 9.12m

Waterline Length:  22' 7" / 6.88m

Beam:  9' 8" / 2.95m

Draft:  5' 1" / 1.55m

Rig Type:  Masthead Sloop

Displacement:  7,276lb / 3,300kg

Designer:  Rolf Magnusson

Builder:  Albin Marine (Sweden)

Year First Built:  1971

Year Last Built:  1982

Number Built:  1500

Owners Association:   UK Ballad Association

Published Design Ratios for the Albin Ballad 30

Sail Area/Displacement Ratio: 16.1

Ballast/Displacement Ratio: 47.0

Displacement/Length Ratio: 282

Comfort Ratio: 22.1

Capsize Screening Formula:   2.0

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Summary Analysis of the Design Ratios for the Albin Ballad 30

The Albin Ballad 30 sailboat, based on the published design ratios, would theoretically have the following sailing characteristics:

  • Sail Area/Displacement Ratio (16.1) : This ratio falls within the range of 16 to 20, indicating that the Albin Ballad 30 would have reasonably good performance. It should be able to move well in most conditions, but it might not be as high-performing as boats with a ratio above 20.
  • Ballast/Displacement Ratio (47.0) : This high ratio suggests that the Albin Ballad 30 is a stiffer, more powerful boat that can stand up well to the wind. However this ratio doesn't account for the location of the ballast. If the ballast is located in a shallow draft keel, the boat will be less stiff than if the ballast were in a bulb at the foot of its keel.
  • Displacement/Length Ratio (282) : This ratio falls within the range of 275-350, indicating that the Albin Ballad 30 is a heavy displacement boat. It would require more power to drive the boat to its design hull speed compared to boats with a lower ratio.
  • Comfort Ratio (22.1) : This ratio falls within the range of 20 to 30, suggesting that the Albin Ballad 30 would have a motion normally associated with a coastal cruiser. It should provide a reasonable level of comfort for the crew in most conditions, but it might not be as comfortable as boats with a higher ratio in rough seas.
  • Capsize Screening Formula (2.0) : This value indicates that the Albin Ballad 30 has blue water capability and if properly equipped is suitable for ocean passages. The lower the value, the better the boat's stability and resistance to capsize.

As for the theoretical nature of these ratios, it's important to remember that they are simplifications and don't capture all aspects of a boat's performance or comfort.

For example, the Ballast/Displacement Ratio doesn't account for the location of the ballast, which can significantly affect a boat's stiffness.

Similarly, Ted Brewer's Comfort Ratio favors heavy displacement, narrow-beamed vessels with long overhangs. As a result, today's lighter-displacement, beamy cruisers with plumb bows won't score well for crew comfort according to this ratio, even though they may have bluewater capability.

These ratios should therefore be used as guides rather than definitive measures of a boat's characteristics.

Albin Ballad 30 accommodation plan

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An Albin Nova sailboat on a trot mooring

Dick McClary wrote this article, and used GPT-4, OpenAI’s large-scale language-generation model, as a research assistant to develop source material. The author wrote the final draft in its entirety and believes it to be accurate to the best of his knowledge.

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"Kathryn B" is an one owner, outstanding, meticulously maintained vessel.  Ordered with the preferable Yanmar 315, she shows owners pride everywhere you look.  Log books and records from day one when she was new, all services up to date, new bottom, Awlgrip, etc, she is turn key and ready to cruise.  

The Albin 30 Family Cruiser is designed to satisfy the diverse demands of today's boating family. Albin pioneered the Aft Cabin concept in the sixties and seventies with the famous Swedish built Albin 25. Later in the eighties they built a 27 aft cabin model. The 30 aft cabin offers roomy sleeping accommodations for 5 / 6 in separate quarters as well as improved performance. The forward cabin area has an enclosed marine head/ shower compartment,  Eight opening S/S portholes and overhead hatch provide excellent ventilation to this area. There is a large storage well in the center of the cockpit. The well has a macerator and can be raised automatically if access is necessary. The aft cabin offers privacy for children or adults. It has 2 single berths which convert into a huge queen. The hull is designed with the North Sea in mind. The skeg keel protects the propeller and adds to the stability. The bow flair keeps the decks dryer. It comes standard with a bow thruster for easy dock side maneuvering.  Her knowledgeable owners are moving out of cruising and offer her for sale.

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The Albin 30 Family Cruiser will sleep up to 5 / 6 in comfort. The forward dinette converts to a queen size berth 6'6"x5'. There is a single / twin berth aft of the galley, 6'03"x 3'02". The aft cabin can be used with two single berths 6'08"x2'08" or a queen berth that is 7'11"x5'.

The head has a sink with medicine cabinet, shower head, storage, a raised panel cherry door.  

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Wide, unobstructed side decks with stainless steel bow rail to back of the wheelhouse provide safe and comfortable movement on deck. . The cockpit aft of the pilothouse is deep and safe for guests, especially children. The aft cabin has walk-around decks, a 30" transom rail, and a short ladder to the swim step.

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Ballad 30 albin

The ballad 30 albin is a 29.92ft masthead sloop designed by rolf magnusson and built in fiberglass by albin marine between 1971 and 1982., 1500 units have been built..

The Ballad 30 albin is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser. The fuel capacity is originally very small. There is a very short water supply range.

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Length 29.92 ft
Beam 9.67 ft
Draft 5.10 ft
Country Sweden (Europe)
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Sail area / displ. 16.09
Ballast / displ. 46.96 %
Displ. / length 282.15
Comfort ratio 22.09
Capsize 2
Hull type Monohull fin keel with rudder on skeg
Construction Fiberglass
Waterline length 22.58 ft
Maximum draft 5.10 ft
Displacement 7276 lbs
Ballast 3417 lbs
Hull speed 6.37 knots

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Rigging Masthead Sloop
Sail area (100%) 376 sq.ft
Air draft 40.68 ft
Sail area fore 227.12 sq.ft
Sail area main 149.28 sq.ft
I 37.08 ft
J 12.25 ft
P 32 ft
E 9.33 ft
Nb engines 1
Total power 10 HP
Fuel capacity 8 gals

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Water capacity 16 gals
Headroom 0 ft
Nb of cabins 0
Nb of berths 0
Nb heads 0

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Builder Albin Marine
Designer Rolf Magnusson
First built 1971
Last built 1982
Number built 1500

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Of the myriad cruiser-racers that appeared in the seventies, only a handful stand out as equally successful in both camps and among the best of them was the Albin Ballad by Rolf Magnusson. Launched in 1972 as a half-tonner, she has a distinctive knuckle just above the waterline amidships. Her fin keel and semi-elliptical rudder were advanced for the times, as was her masthead rig with its tiny mainsail and huge, overlapping genoa which needs powerful winches or strapping crew to manage. Roller-reefing is essential. The hull is slim, well balanced and easily driven and she has a surprisingly easy motion in a seaway. On the other hand, she can be wet upwind in a chop and a bit of a handful downwind if overcanvassed. She has a long, comfortable and well-protected cockpit and tiller steering. She has six berths in two cabins, including two rather awkward pilot berths. By modern standards the galley is small but adequate, as is the heads. The GRP inner moulding makes the décor rather stark, but practical and robust. The boats were strongly built by Albin Marine in Sweden and have lasted well in general. However, most have had a hard racing background and may still be showing the bruises. Deck gear and spars, if original, should be treated with caution. The design is still sought after as a sporty family cruiser and cost-effective club racer so prices, though not as firm as they once were, are on the high side.

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17-12-2020, 12:32  
mostly for single-handed sailing, cruising with my sometimes and eventually living on the all by myself.
Albin Ballad is considered by many as the which is now rated as an ocean cruiser, , her beam contributes to the stiffness and she is a well designed (configured, laid out) .
I have read quite a bit about the boat yet still have some questions:
- What are Ballad force and wave height limits? Her free-board is quite low, what height is it?
- Problems for single-handling?
- Is Ballad hard to steer in heavy ? What is heavy for Ballad? When she becomes a very wet boat?
- How does she sail downwind?
- Do all Ballad models, including latest ones, have a sandwich ?
- is stepped. How hard is it to drain from bilges near step? How to make the hole where mast goes through the tight?
- Important questions about ground tackle. All pictures of Ballads I have seen so far, show no and no on the bow. They have anchors stowed in locker. is attached to a short chain (how long and how big is it?) that in turn is attached to some sort of a tape coiled on a stern pushpit. How do they use anchor on a bow? Is it possible to make a proper ground tackle on the bow? Where to store chain in this case? In my case it is important to have a heavy enough anchor with at least 30 meters of chain to anchor from the bow, which makes it impossible to drag all this from a stern locker to the bow when you need to anchor. How to solve problems on Ballad?
- Auxiliary. The boat I am looking for has with 500 hours. has direct sea water system. Most probably needs replacement because of the rust. Is cooling channels replacement possible with this engine and how much will it approximately cost?
- How big are and water ?
- Pictures show heads located close to the bow without any door in sight. Is it so, or heads have a sliding door?
- What problems to look for when Ballad?
- Is there any Ballad specific forum in ?

Many thanks for any info on Ballads!
18-12-2020, 00:47  
Boat: sailing Shipman 28 / OE36 project
18-12-2020, 05:56  
18-12-2020, 06:02  
Boat: Sabre 402
mostly for single-handed sailing, cruising with my sometimes and eventually living on the boat all by myself.
Albin Ballad is considered by many as the which is now rated as an ocean cruiser, , her beam contributes to the stiffness and she is a well designed (configured, laid out) boat.
I have read quite a bit about the boat yet still have some questions:
- What are Ballad wind force and wave height limits? Her free-board is quite low, what height is it?


- Problems for single-handling? . Built for , sail controls are likely set up for crew to handle, well-spaced on deck.
- Is Ballad hard to steer in heavy weather ? What is heavy weather for Ballad? When she becomes a very wet boat?
- How does she sail downwind?
- Do all Ballad models, including latest ones, have a sandwich deck? by making them all the same. Why would this one be any different?
- Mast is stepped. How hard is it to drain water from bilges near mast step? . How to make the hole where mast goes through the deck water tight? about how to make your mast partners watertight. Good luck.Water comes down the mast groove for the luff too.
- Important questions about ground tackle. All pictures of Ballads I have seen so far, show no anchor and no on the bow. They have anchors stowed in locker. Anchor is attached to a short chain (how long and how big is it?) that in turn is attached to some sort of a tape coiled on a stern pushpit. How do they use anchor on a bow? Is it possible to make a proper ground tackle on the bow? Where to store chain in this case? In my case it is important to have a heavy enough anchor with at least 30 meters of chain to anchor from the bow, which makes it impossible to drag all this from a stern locker to the bow when you need to anchor. How to solve problems on Ballad? were raced, owners opted for the lightest and easiest ground tackle, since it was hardly ever used. It is quite simple to lead the anchor line from the bow to the cockpit, where a singlehanded can drop it over the side. What 30m of heavy chain will do to the sailing characteristics of such a small and relatively light boat, especially if it is stowed forward, could be interesting, and perhaps dangerous for the handling of the boat in some conditions.
- Auxiliary. The boat I am looking for has engine with 500 hours. Engine has direct sea water cooling system. Most probably cooling needs replacement because of the rust. raw-water cooled engine too. We have replaced hoses, zincs, gaskets and belts as needed. We do not have an hour meter, but it likely has more than a thousand hours on it. Diesels can last a long time. Is cooling channels replacement possible with this engine and how much will it approximately cost? should be able to tell you.
- How big are and water ? shows that these boats have 30L diesel and 61L water tanks
- Pictures show heads located close to the bow without any door in sight. Is it so, or heads have a sliding door? or singlehanded, and you worry about a door on the ??? Many smaller boats have curtains if a door is unworkable.
- What problems to look for when Ballad? floors had extensive rust. Having the keel fall off because of this could ruin your afternoon. Check under the floorboards of the .
- Is there any Ballad specific forum in ?

Many thanks for any info on Ballads!
18-12-2020, 07:00  
Boat: sailing Shipman 28 / OE36 project
on port or starboard side and not in the middle, how it works then? Do Ballad have a central cleat on the bow that can be used to secure anchor chain / tape?

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18-12-2020, 10:00  
Boat: Swan 57
we mostly tie up bow to land and an anchor off the stern. Being a "sporty" boat in the old days the main anchor was stowed low in the boat.
18-12-2020, 10:07  
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18-12-2020, 11:20  
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The Albin 30 is a nice little boat and much of a muchness with other Scowegian "cruiser/racers" of her vintage. The King's Cruiser is the one I know best:



These two boats are contemporaries and functionally equivalent. They are based on older Scowegian tradition and are direct derivatives of the Folkebåd which we know as the "International Folkboat"



"Modern" North Americans CAN in these boats, but doing so is very much like "camping out" - in the rough at that. We Scowegians thought, back then in the late '60s, that these were BIG boats, because most boats were, like the IF, in the 24 and 25 foot range.

You will see that the arrangement is much the same in all these boats, so there really isn't anything to choose between there. arrangements are, to say the least, minimal in their native configuration, and I would expect that for any of the boats this side of The Pond, these arrangements have been upgraded. arrangements are primitive because the boats have so little interior space. In the "heads" (the "room"), there is, typically "not room to swing a cat", or more to the point, not sufficient room for a grown man's elbows to move while he "does the paper work". Having a is just not an option for want of space.

No need to elaborate further on those things I'm sure :-)!

For day-sailing, or weekends out with a coupla smallish kids or young teenagers, they are excellent boats, particularly if they haven't been "upgraded" with such things as . If they are kept mechanically simple they can, in the hands of a competent , go like veritable stink, but they are only 3 1/2 tons, so you can easily spoil their performance by loading them down with clobber, both personal and boat related.

So that brings us to your question/comment about 90 feet of chain. Whyever would you need 90 feet? Where are you gonna sail? Where are you gonna anchor?

Another practicality is that an Albin 30 in good condition should set you back no more than five grand. For that you would get a boat that is EXCELLENT for the basic on - particularly if it is kept simple as to - and for taking a coupla kiddie-winks out for a weekend's or even a week's camping. If, after you get some miles under your keel, you decide that you would like to take the Albin down to where the coconuts grow, or even around Island, then know that the BOAT is perfectly capable of undertaking such a voyage. The question is whether YOU will be. It is not the boat that takes the crew safely across vast stretches of water. It' the that takes the boat with her crew safely across!

You may decide after getting some experience in the Albin that for a permanent upon the bounding main you'd prefer a bigger boat. In that case, just walk away from your five grand by giving the boat to one of the foundations that accept old boats against a receipt for tax purposes, and then use the proceeds from the (eventual) of the boat for various benevolent purposes. One of the realities of a sailorman's life is that he should never put more money into a boat than he can walk away from with s smile still on his face :-)!

Good luck to you, and let's know how you get on.

TrentePieds
18-12-2020, 11:21  
it is normal practice to drop the anchor from the stern. The bow will be tied to the trees or rings on shore. The shores are pretty steep usually and one can step on shore from the bow.


You can always walk to the bow with your anchor and cleat it there if you want to anchor the usual way, away from the shore.
18-12-2020, 11:33  
Boat: sailing Shipman 28 / OE36 project
18-12-2020, 11:40  
18-12-2020, 11:56  
.

The Albin 30 is a nice little boat and much of a muchness with other Scowegian "cruiser/racers" of her vintage. The King's Cruiser is the one I know best:



These two boats are contemporaries and functionally equivalent. They are based on older Scowegian tradition and are direct derivatives of the Folkebåd which we know as the "International Folkboat"



"Modern" North Americans CAN in these boats, but doing so is very much like "camping out" - in the rough at that. We Scowegians thought, back then in the late '60s, that these were BIG boats, because most boats were, like the IF, in the 24 and 25 foot range.

You will see that the interior arrangement is much the same in all these boats, so there really isn't anything to choose between there. arrangements are, to say the least, minimal in their native configuration, and I would expect that for any of the boats this side of The Pond, these arrangements have been upgraded. Toilet arrangements are primitive because the boats have so little interior space. In the "heads" (the toilet "room"), there is, typically "not room to swing a cat", or more to the point, not sufficient room for a grown man's elbows to move while he "does the paper work". Having a is just not an option for want of space.

No need to elaborate further on those things I'm sure :-)!

For day-sailing, or weekends out with a coupla smallish kids or young teenagers, they are excellent boats, particularly if they haven't been "upgraded" with such things as . If they are kept mechanically simple they can, in the hands of a competent skipper, go like veritable stink, but they are only 3 1/2 tons, so you can easily spoil their performance by loading them down with clobber, both personal and boat related.

So that brings us to your question/comment about 90 feet of chain. Whyever would you need 90 feet? Where are you gonna sail? Where are you gonna anchor?

Another practicality is that an Albin 30 in good condition should set you back no more than five grand. For that money you would get a boat that is EXCELLENT for the basic on - particularly if it is kept simple as to - and for taking a coupla kiddie-winks out for a weekend's or even a week's camping. If, after you get some miles under your keel, you decide that you would like to take the Albin down to where the coconuts grow, or even around Island, then know that the BOAT is perfectly capable of undertaking such a voyage. The question is whether YOU will be. It is not the boat that takes the crew safely across vast stretches of water. It' the skipper that takes the boat with her crew safely across!

You may decide after getting some experience in the Albin that for a permanent upon the bounding main you'd prefer a bigger boat. In that case, just walk away from your five grand by giving the boat to one of the foundations that accept old boats against a receipt for tax purposes, and then use the proceeds from the (eventual) of the boat for various benevolent purposes. One of the realities of a sailorman's life is that he should never put more money into a boat than he can walk away from with s smile still on his face :-)!

Good luck to you, and let's know how you get on.

TrentePieds
18-12-2020, 13:53  
Boat: sailing Shipman 28 / OE36 project
18-12-2020, 15:20  
should be enuff, and it's nice to have, say, six or seven fathoms of 5/16" (8mm) chain, to lay the shank flat on the bottom and to take the chafe of the first few fathoms of near the anchor, particularly if the ground is foul with rocks. The part of the scope should be 7/16" (11mm) three strand nylon, because nylon is elastic and becomes its own "snubber" (shock absorber).

5/16" chain weighs just under a pound (say than 400gr.) per foot and has a breaking strength of 4,700 lbs, say 2 tons. So 40 feet (which is what I have) weighs about 16Kg.

7/16" three strand nylon has a breaking strength of 4,500 lbs (i.e. very much the same as the chain), and a weight of 5 lbs per 100 feet. So 200 feet, which is what I have, weighs about 4 1/2 Kg.

The weight of ALL the ground tackle may therefore be expected to be about 28Kg.

So weight is simply NOT a problem. Nevertheless, since you obviously don't need an anchor when you are in deep water, say more than 30 feet or 10M deep) you take the weight out of the ends of the boat and thereby make a light boat like an Albin 30 more sea kindly. You stow the stuff as near to midships as you can. Just make sure that the stuff is securely lashed down just in case Poseidon gets up on the wrong side of the .

Now, I have an , but — Oh, my Aunt! What a turkey! So, Dok, I you want to know what I do in TrentePieds, just ask :-)

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I''m seriously considering the purchase of a 1974 Albin Ballad I''ve discovered for sale close to home. I''m looking for a good boat for eventual budget-oriented long distance cruising, and the Ballad has an apparantly good reputation as a blue water boat. The price is just right. The sales will need replacing before I venture too far, but I have a few more years of building a kitty anyway. I''m assuming the standing rigging might also need replacing, for prudence'' sake if nothing else. Considering these things, does any one know what a good price might be for this vessel? And if anyone has a Ballad of this vintage, I would appreciate any reviews or stroies you''d care to share. Thanks!  

Hello, Dodger... We sailed a Ballad ''little sister'', a ''75 27'' Albin Vega out of Santa Barbara, CA - meaning ''offshore'' the minute you left the harbor entrance - for two years, and were then run down at sea aboard her by drunk abalone fishermen (a story in itself). Our sailing & ''destruction'' experiences built a huge degree of respect on our part for the way the Swedish company built their boats (as well as the designs themselves) before abandoning Sweden for Taiwan. We lusted over a Ballad for some time, as did other Vega owners we knew, and I suspect the basics of the boat you''ve found - assuming decent maintenance like keeping her wateright - are still well above the Catalina/Hunter standard we see today. One point to offer some perspective on these designs: in the 70''s, Hallberg-Rassey was building its first generation of boats, which were then routinely sailed around the world. (Mind you, we''re talking about what today we refer to as "production boats" sold to a competitive price in the US marketplace). Meanwhile, Albin Vegas & Ballads were being routinely sailed across the Atlantic or raced in the North & Baltic Seas by both experienced & inexperienced crews without a hiccup. Back then, Hiscocks'' books were the only ''real'' cruising bible and people took such performance & endurance far more for granted than today, now that the bookkeepers have found the ''value'' of iron keels, molded liners, thin prop shafts and 304 stainless deck hardware. I''m not sure you can expect any truly helpful info on the pricing of the Ballad you''ve found. Oh, opinions are always eagerly offered, and you can locate anecdotal info from a few souls who paid ''$X'' for their Albins, but that doesn''t fair much of a curve for the next boat. Instead, I''d suggest you use the 30'' used boat market as your baseline - what else do you believe was essentially soundly built in that size/displacement range, was intended for offshore racing & sailing, and at the level the boat has been maintained and hopefully improved? And what price, comparably equipped, are those competing boats going for? The Ballad will be more functionally arranged, better engineered, less roomy and probably wetter (due to a fine entry) than e.g. an Islander 30 from SoCal or a Morgan 30 from Florida. But with these older boats, it''s more a matter of the overall quality of the construction, what she was designed to do, and what level of fit-out & condition is she now in. Your ''critical issues'' list should include engine, rig and the structural soundness of the interior components & keel/rudder/deck, IMO. Also, double-check the mast step; Albins could have a problem there if taken to weather over many miles offshore. Sorry to editorialize, but you can see I have a high regard for that yard of that era. One of the true disappointments - one way the sailing marketplace fails us today - is the lack of smaller but offshore-capable designs at affordable prices. If it was possible in the late 70''s to build a ''basic systems'' boat that could cross an ocean repeatedly, why not now given our alleged advancements in technology? Jack  

Jack, Thanks very much for your reply. I wasn''t honestly expecting one so quickly, considering the fact that Albins and more particularely the Ballads, aren''t very well known in this hemisphere. As you noted, the shipyard of that era has an excellent reputation for building strong, capable boats. I''ve been searching for quite awhile for the right vessel with the right "compromise" of design features, and the ballad certainly has them. Combined with it''s reputation and the considering the purpose it was built for (as you say, cruisning/racing the North Sea), I was immediatly pulled to this boat when I saw her listing. The boat doesn''t appear to have been upgraded all that much since 1974. But by this I mean mostly creature comforts and instrumentation, and it''s a minor factor in my mulling. The engine I believe is still the original Volvo 10 hp. The deck has had some delamination problems, but from what research I''ve done, thermal delamination (no water in the core) is a somewhat common problem for older Ballads, and easily repaired. A good survey should tell for sure. As I said in my earlier post, the sails will need replacing and the standing rigging most likely as well, both things I would do anyway before setting off for Tahiti. The asking price is around $25,000 Canadian, and she''s been a Great Lakes boat for the last so many years of her life (possibly most of her life, I''m not sure yet). The broker tells me the sails definitley need "servicing" and the deck may need additional work. I think this will bring down the price even more. If the standing rigging is old (original??) then even moreso. With regards to your comments about modern production boats and thier lack of deep water/big wind abilities, I read an interesting article the other day on just this subject. It seems it''s the average boat-buyer who''s causing this unfortunately, with thier need for a home-away-from home boat with more interior space and accomodations for entertaining on the dock on a Saturday night. This means a wider beam, longer cockpits, higher freeboard, taller coach roof, etc. All things that a make a design less sea-worthy. What the market demands now are coastal cruisers, and that''s what the majority of manufacturers are building. Be interested to hear how you lost your Vega. Sounds like an interesting yarn! And thanks again for your reply. Patrick  

Dodger: If you''d like to exchange further info on this boat, probably not one most Sailnet readers care about, please feel free to contact me at [email protected], which I''ll have access to for another week or so before returning to Trinidad. The ''thermal delamination'' comment was interesting since I do not believe Albin used balsa core in any of its boats; I think you''ll find the deck is a grp/closed cell foam/grp laminate, much like all the Hallberg-Rasseys of that era. I mention this because digging out rotted core or removing it by cutting out the lower grp laminate would not be necessary, in this case. Instead, it sounds to me more like a drying & pumping (with epoxy) operation. So somehow, try to determine core content (e.g. by pulling a fastener during the survey). A couple of other comments: 1. You are looking at an old(er) boat that essentially needs to be resurrected big-time in order to make such offshore passages. It sounds like you know this already, but a new/fuller suit of sails, a vane (& maybe cockpit autopilot), new rigging, rebuilt or replaced diesel (think about getting parts for that old Volvo vs. having a new Yanmar...), increased water capacity and/or a watermaker, upgraded electrics & electronics, and no doubt other things are all ''musts'' on a trans-Pacific voyage IMO. And that all adds up, even if the basic design is appropriate and the corpus (hull/deck/rudder) are well-designed and in good shape. Also consider that she will be a wet boat, designed to punch thru steep seas & tidal chop for racing purposes (see...we need to add fresh canvas to the list!), and that her carrying capacity is limited by her design. I''m not trying to rain on any parades here, but want to provide a fair context in which to discuss the boat. 2. Offsetting all the above is the fact that many of these upgrades - even on ''non-condo'' cruising boats - will be required for any vessel with such plans. That''s why - from an economic perspective, at least - your best bet IMO is to find a recently cruised, seaworthy boat that will cost twice what you end up paying for the base Ballad (assuming a price reduction) but which will cost you very little thereafter. Moreover, many of the ''puzzles'' presented to a new owner setting up a small boat for long-distance cruising will have previously been well-solved on a properly fitted out boat. Again for balance, I should also add that new gear on your old boat, which you install, brings owner knowledge, the comfort that things were done right, and equipments'' full lifespan along with it - things you don''t necessarily get even on someone else''s nifty cruiser. 3. Have you read John Neal''s _Log of the Mahina_? I think you''d find it valuable reading, for two reasons: the main appendix gives a thorough description of how he prep''d his Vega to sail from Seattle to the South Pacific and back (and afterall, the Vega isn''t that much different) AND it''s a tale that would resonate with your stated plans. I''ll bet you can still find a copy at www.mahina.com (or maybe www.mahinaservices.com, or something similar). It''s dated, but then so is this Ballad you''re looking at. 4. Don''t overlook Latitude 38''s classifieds every month. It''s available on-line at www.latitude38.com or free by picking up a copy at West Marine, if you have one nearby. Many seasoned cruising boats are advertised there, and what better place to a Pacific passage but in the San Francisco-San Diego area! Good luck on the pondering! Jack  

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1978 Albin Ballad 30

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The owner bought this boat in 2020

General condition and any additional information

This Albin Ballad 30 is rigged for cruising. It is in the water and in a slip at the Waukegan IL marina. Slip fees for season included and paid.

Standard features

Sloop rig, fin keel, skeg rudder and keel stepped mast. Volvo Penta 10 hp diesel. Port and starboard settees with drop leaf table. The galley is aft to starboard with ice box, stove and sink with salt and fresh water. Across from the galley is a chart table and quarter berth. The interior is very clean with ample storage. All cushions have been re-done.

LOA 2911 LWL 22’7” Beam 9’8” Draft 5’1” Disp 7,280 lbs Ballast 3,420 lbs SA 479 sq ft Fuel 8.4 bal Water 17 gal

Extra gear included

Bimini and dodger. 2 inflatable life vests, Garmin plotter, VHF radio, 2 boat hooks, danforth anchor, plough anchor, 110V trickle battery charger, replacement parts with original boat and systems manuals.

Improvements to the hull, deck, rigging, engine, or interior

  • New impeller Volva Penta MD6B
  • New saloon curtains 2021

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

One of the most popular sailing yachts of this size ever built in Scandinavia. An evolution of the JOKER S30(1968). (IOR 1/2 ton) After Albin Marine went out of business in 1982, the molds were acquired by the Ballad One-Design Association and leased to a number of different yards in Sweden that built a few more boats until 1998.

OE Auxiliary Power (Volvo Penta): Boats built / Model / HP 1971-75 / MD 6A / 10 1976-77 / MD 6B / 10 1977-78 / MD 7A / 13 1978-84 / MD 7B / 17 1984- / VP 2002 / 18

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