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Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Is this the ideal size for a yacht?

Peter Poland

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  • April 14, 2022

Peter Poland picks out some of the best cruising boats under 30ft, arguably the ideal size for coastal and occasional offshore sailing

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Cruising boats of around 30ft can often become a ‘boat for life’. Having graduated from dinghies to small cruisers, many sailors decide that something around 30ft will give them enough space, headroom, comfort and seagoing ability to see out their sailing days.

Sometimes a crew of young children may push them into something bigger for a while, but many sailors find that around 30ft is an ideal size for coastal and occasional offshore sailing.

Budget is also usually an important factor. Some GRP cruising boats around 30ft date back to the 1960s. But times change and precious few new models of this size are being built today.

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A Hunter Horizon 30, Aljara , in Torbay – a lift up tiller gives a roomy cockpit. Photo: Duncan Kent

So if you want a 30-foot cruising boat you’ll probably end up with a second-hand yacht and can be looking at age differences of up to 60 years; with correspondingly different prices. Some sailors relish the process of renovating an older yacht, while others want one that is in good condition and raring to go.

When you start looking for a good second-hand cruising boat around 30ft, the choices are wide and varied. There are so many options that it’s easy to become confused. Not only were a lot of different models built, the variations between types, styles and levels of performance became more defined around the 30ft mark.

The options below are from all across Europe, but we’ve also covered the best 30ft French boats , the best 30ft British boats , the best 30ft German boats and the best 30ft boats from Scandinavia .

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Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Focusing the search

As time passed three different types evolved: middle of the road family cruisers ( fin, twin and lifting keel ); older style long keeled cruisers ; and lighter cruiser-racers (often IOR-influenced after the late 1970s).

So it becomes ever more important to have a clear idea of what size and type of cruiser you want. As we often said to clients who were considering buying one of our Hunters, you need to answer some basic questions before deciding on your ideal yacht: what sort of sailing are you planning?; where?; with whom?; and how often? We reckoned that many people ended up by buying bigger boats than they actually needed.

Three of the earliest GRP production yachts built fell into the 28-30ft bracket and – even if a degree of restoration work is necessary – all are excellent designs.

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The Pionier 9 is a good seagoing yacht. Photo: SailingScenes.com

The Dutch 9.10m Pionier 9 – often spelt Pioneer 9 in English – was designed by van de Stadt and the first production GRP yacht in Europe. More than 600 were built after the first was launched in 1959. UK versions were moulded by Tylers and finished by Southern Ocean Shipyard in Poole.

The Pionier’s hull configuration of a fin keel and separate spade rudder was well ahead of the game at that time. With a beam of just 2.4m she’s not spacious by modern standards but a practical four berth layout, generous cockpit, displacement/length ratio (DLR) of 235 and sail area/displacement (SA/Disp) ratio of 19.1 combine to make the Pionier a good seagoing yacht and a delight to sail.

A well maintained example makes an excellent performance cruiser, as confirmed by one owner on a discussion forum who wrote: ‘The Pionier 9 is a strong and seaworthy boat. Aziz was sailed single-handed non-stop from UK to US [from Milford Haven to Newport in 1971 in 45 days] by Nicolette Milnes-Walke r – the first woman to achieve this…

‘My father and I have owned our Pionier 9 for about 32 years now and she still sails well against more modern boats and the quality of build means they suffer very few problems.’

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The Elizabethan 29, built by Peter Webster, has a graceful counter. Photo: SailingScenes.com

Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Long keel designs

The great British designer Kim Holman was responsible for two other exceptional yachts in this early GRP era; the 1960 Elizabethan 29 and 1964 Twister 28. Unlike the Pionier, both of these have traditional long keels.

The Elizabethan (built by Peter Webster) has a graceful counter while the Twister (moulded by Tylers and finished by various builders such as Uphams and Universal Shipyard) hangs its rudder on a transom stern, and the latter is a smidge wider (8ft 1in), longer on the waterline, (21ft 6in) and heavier (9,968lb). Both have four berth layouts with amidships heads and both are a delight to sail.

I was lucky enough to be a regular crew on an Elizabethan in the 1960s, and enjoyed regular sailing on a Twister this century. If I had to risk a comparison I’d say the latter has few equals when slicing upwind in a blow into a chop, while the former is one of the most slippery ladies I have ever steered downwind. Both sail in classic regattas and are snug and practical to live aboard – albeit without stern cabins.

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A delight to sail, the Twister 28 has a traditional long keel and hangs its rudder on a transom stern. Photo: Graham Snook/Yachting Monthly

Both attract admiring looks wherever they sail. They’re high on my list of all-time favourites and make great buys if you don’t want a floating caravan and don’t mind a bit of maintenance work from time to time.

Earlier Twisters have a high-maintenance wooden coachroof, while later ones are all GRP. And – as with any elderly yacht – look for one with a replacement engine and renewed rigging.

Elizabethan 30

Peter Webster came up with another timeless yacht in 1968. The Elizabethan 30 (and later 9m sister, both designed by the great David Thomas) were fast cruisers inspired by the Half Ton Cup.

With a beam of 9ft 3in, it offers reasonable space down below while a generous ballast ratio of 48%, SA/Disp ratio of 19.2 and moderate DLR of 235 ensure excellent performance and easy handling; especially when compared to modern cruisers with wide sterns and towering topsides. What’s more, it is a lovely looking yacht.

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The Elizabethan 30 Mistweave . Photo: SailingScenes.com

Hugo Morgan-Harris of consulting surveyors Saunders Morgan Harris told me; “I brought my Liz 30 in 1998 as a classic GRP cruising/racing boat. She had an old RCA Dolphin petrol engine, rotten alloy mast, tired rigging and no deck fittings.

“The interior was a mess and all of the systems were original. As I was boatbuilding at the time I thought that I’d have a go! Now we have a new Yanmar 2GM, electrics, nav gear, Lewmar windows, toilet, fridge, wireless auto helm, boom, vang etc.”

If you can buy a tired boat cheaply enough, this sort of investment is worth the money. Having owned and loved the boat for some 20 years, Hugo sold her and bought and restored (in his garden!) a tired Sigma 38. So, like many others, he has stuck to David Thomas designs.

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Spinnaker drop during Round the Island 2010 for Nicholson 303 Nutcracker . Photo: SailingScenes.com

Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Wide beam accommodation

As the 70s got under way, the high profile Half Ton Cup seemed to cast its spell over ever more 30ft cruisers. The Nicholson 30, Ron Holland-designed Nicholson 303, Doug Petersen-designed Contessa 28 and Contention 30, Fred Parker Javelin 30, Dick Carter-designed Carter 30, S&S-designed She 31 and Kim Holman-designed Hustler 30 and UFO 31 all offered wide beam accommodation, fin keels and well above average performance.

Some were better built than others. For my money the Tyler-moulded and Landamores-finished Hustler 30 or Nicholson 303 are the pick of this bunch if you are in the market for a 30-footer that sails well (albeit twitchily on a heavy weather reach or run with too much canvas aloft), has a good seagoing layout and looks classy.

Reverting to more classic long-keelers built around the same time, I came across an internet thread that sparked a flurry of interesting comments. The opening post was: “I am looking to make a first yacht purchase and would appreciate thoughts on the variations between a Victoria 30, a Halmatic 30 or a Nicholson 31. I am keener on the more classic style of yacht than on newer boats and [want] a long keel; with a view to longer or ocean trips in the future.”

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The John Sharp-designed Halmatic 30. Photo: SailingScenes.com

Those looking for a boat of this character should have these three on their list. The John Sharp-designed Halmatic 30 (and similar Barbican 30) is 22ft 10in on the waterline, has 9ft 6in beam, draws 4ft 6in, displaces 9,000lb with a 50% ballast ratio, 338 DLR and 15.95 SA/Disp ratio.

The Chuck Paine-designed Victoria 30 has a canoe stern and similar dimensions but is appreciably lighter at 8,867lb with a 31% ballast ratio and DLR of 311. Raymond Wall’s classy Nicholson 31 (30ft 6in), on the other hand, is a little longer, wider (10ft 3in) and heavier (13,005lb) with a ballast ratio of 37% and DLR of 411. Like the Halmatic 30, it has a transom-hung rudder giving the look of an elegant overgrown Folkboat or Twister.

Personal preference

My favourite from this trio would be a well-maintained Nicholson 31. One owner put it well, responding to the thread: “I can’t give an unbiased opinion, because I’ve owned my Nic 31 from new in 1982…

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A well-maintained Nicholson 31 is an exceptional yacht. Photo: SailingScenes.com

“She has sailed transatlantic (Maine to Ireland, averaging just over 5 knots for the entire, comfortable, passage) and was great for living aboard for six seasons (cruising three months at a time) in northern European waters. Fabulous boat… Almost any used boat will need to be updated. Just start with a good foundation.” Which about says it all.

He later told me “We had a variety of weather conditions [on the transatlantic trip] and the combination of full keel and great sail balance allowed the wind vane to steer straight in all but the lightest air, even downwind… She’s the perfect small blue water (for two to four crew) and coastal cruising (for two) boat.”

However as designs progressed and production methods evolved, going offshore ceased to be the sole preserve of old fashioned-style long-keel boats. Many modern family boats such as a Westerly, Hunter, Sadler, Moody, or more recent Beneteaus, Jeanneaus and Bavarias in the 28-32ft size range offered ample scope for coastal and offshore cruising.

The advantage of this type of boat is that it tends to be newer, more spacious, easy to handle and can also be easier to sell when the time comes to move on. There is a much wider choice because they were made in the hundreds. Once again condition and equipment are important.

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Paradise Seeker , a Moody 31 sailing on the River Tay near Dundee. Photo: Dundee Photographics/Alamy

The Bill Dixon-designed Moody 31 (LOA 30ft 9in) Mk1 and Mk2 models (with fin or twin keels) were built from 1983 to 1991 and are good examples. A beam of 10ft 6in, weight of 9,966lb, ballast ratio of 37%, DLR of 270 and SA/Disp ratio of 15 put it firmly in the camp of modern, capable and roomy family cruisers.

Despite highish freeboard, it looks sleek and well styled. And of course its modern layout with aft heads, stern cabin and practical L-shaped galley was an instant hit with cruising families. One owner said “I had always fancied a Contessa 32 but after a trial sail, my wife was not impressed. Too uncomfortable! At the Boat Show we saw the Moody 31. My wife liked the space and comfort and it looked a good sea boat to me. Not as fast as the Contessa perhaps but I wasn’t really a racing man.”

This owner later proved his Moody 31’s ability offshore by joining a Royal Cornwall YC rally to the Azores. On the racing front, I used to crew on a fin keel Moody 31 Mk1 that picked up plenty of pots in Hamble-based handicap races.

A member of the Moody Owners Association endorsed the Moody 31’s qualities saying he had owned his 31from new in 1990, adding: “We have sailed the local rivers and across to Holland, Belgium and France. The boat is almost a member of the family and… it’s large enough to accommodate six but can be sailed single-handed.

“It’s a sturdy boat that will hold up against many faster types if sailed correctly. The oversized 28hp engine will push it through a steep chop at 6 knots. Over a quarter of a century, I discovered how well the boat has been made… It has never let me down and I love sailing her.”

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Saloon of the ever-popular Laurent Giles-designed Konsort 29. Photo: Bob Aylott/myclassicboat.com

Westerly Konsort 29

Westerly came up with one of its most successful 28-30ft cruisers in the 1980s. Over 700 of the ever-popular Laurent Giles-designed Konsort 29 were built and these tough cruisers are still much sought after.

Its vital statistics of 10ft 9in beam, 8516lb weight, 37.5% ballast ratio, 229 DLR and 15 SA/Disp ratio are on a par with many of its contemporaries.

The Konsort’s conventional accommodation – featuring amidships heads and aft galley and nav area – is practical and solidly finished, making it an archetypical middle-of-the-road family cruiser.

And for those who prefer a deck saloon offering panoramic views from the warm and dry, the Duo version also has many attractions.

A former commodore of the Westerly Association told me that when he bought his twin keel Konsort he sought out a boat that incorporated the revised hull reinforcement system Westerly adopted after early production.

He added that: “The boat sails well provided there is sufficient breeze to get her going. A cruising chute helps in light airs. When the wind pipes up the performance is good, with a reef in the main around Force 5. The Konsort is very much a cruising boat so we have never expected her to point high, but you sail according to the characteristics of your boat. When required the 24hp Bukh diesel will take care of any lack of wind.

“We sail in the English Channel, the Channel Islands and adjacent coast of France. We have had no unexpected problems with the boat… a choice well made and never regretted.”

The later 30ft 6in Westerly Tempest, designed by Ed Dubois, was a very different concept. Its unusual accommodation featured two double cabins aft and a heads compartment in the eyes of the yacht. By Westerly standards, its sales total of 107 wasn’t a runaway success. But it has a lot to offer; as does its revamped Regatta 310 near sister.

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Unusually for a 30ft 6in yacht, the Westerly Tempest has two double cabins aft and a heads in the forepeak. Photo: SailingScenes.com

The Sadler 29 was another winner from the 1980s. Martin Sadler told me: “The 29 appeared at the 1981 Earls Court boat show. She was offered with fin or twin keels and the mix was about 60/40 in favour of the latter.

“Our demonstration boat had twins and it surprised people how well she sailed [understandable because these twins are shapely, well positioned and draw 3ft 8in]. The design concept of the 29 was to achieve a larger internal volume for overall length than the Sadler 25 and 32, and she has accommodation very similar to the 32.”

Designer David Sadler got the balance between comfort and performance right: 28ft 5in overall, waterline 22ft 10in, beam 9ft 6in, weight 8,200lb, 41.5% ballast ratio, 307 DLR and 14.68 SA/Disp ratio. Sailors loved her and around 400 were built.

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‘Another winner from the 80s’; the Sadler 29. Photo: Patrick Eden/Alamy

Her spacious accommodation with amidships heads, good galley and chart table and cosy quarter berth appealed to traditionalists and modernists alike. What’s more the inner mouldings conceal enough foam buoyancy to make the boat float and sail if flooded, if the foam’s still sound.

One Sadler 29 owner summed up what to look for, saying: “The advice when buying boats of this age is to spend a bit more on one that has been sorted, ie recent new engine, sails, standing rigging, cushions etc, rather than getting a tatty boat cheaper, and then spending a fortune.

“We like the foam filled construction, not least because it massively reduces condensation compared to other boats I’ve sailed (and slept) on. The downside is the boat is rather smaller than other 29-footers down below.”

The later Stephen Jones-designed Sadler 290 never achieved the same number of buyers. Its builders folded after around 40 were produced. But that does not detract from this exceptional boat’s performance. Both twin and fin versions have lead keels and sail superbly. If you see one for sale, take a look. But it won’t be cheap.

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Timothy Long sailed his Impala 28, Alchemy, solo around the UK; here between Ardrishaig and Tarbert. Photo: Peter Jeanneret/Hunter Association

Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Sportier cruisers

And what about the sportier cruisers of the 1980s and 90s? The Hunter Impala 28 (1977 onwards) has many fans to this day – Timothy Long became the youngest sailor to circumnavigate Britain solo in 2020 sailing an Impala. Designed as an Offshore One Design by David Thomas, the Impala still makes a competitive racer.

But don’t overlook its attributes as a fast cruiser. The interior is practical and simple: twin berth forepeak, enclosed heads to port amidships, galley aft of the main bulkhead to starboard and two settee berths with two pilot berths outboard in the saloon. Originally Impalas came with an outboard in a well; but most now have inboards.

The later Hunter Horizon 30 is an elongated cruising version of the Impala, with a new deck and counter stern. The interior is dramatically different, with twin berth forepeak, saloon settees and aft galley, heads compartment and double aft cabin.

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Hunter Horizon 30 – an elongated cruising version of the Impala

Thanks to the superb performance of Thomas’s twin keels (3ft 10in draught with bulbed bases), most buyers chose this option. Its moderate 9ft 3in beam gives good handling and its 43% ballast ratio, 234 DLR and SA/Disp ratio of 19.8 provide sparkling performance. Indeed a twin-keeler took third overall in its CHS class against racy fin-keelers in one Round the Island Race.

Those looking for a beamier fin keel cruiser-racer might find the Thomas-designed Sigma 292 of interest. It didn’t sell in large numbers, compared to the Sigma 33, but shares many of its qualities. The Thomas-designed Hunter Channel 31 (30ft 9in) is an exceptionally quick twin-keeler and a delight to sail and live aboard; but sadly only a few were built.

And finally, going back a few years, Chris Butler’s Achilles 9m also sold well and excelled in the 1984 OSTAR, finishing in 30 days. This sporty fin-keeler has a DLR of 190, SA/Disp ratio of 15.5 and a 43% ballast ratio. A tidy example makes an excellent budget cruiser-racer.

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Soulmate, a Hunter Channel 31, owned by Robin Jeavons. Photo: Sven Petersen/Hunter Association

Best cruising boats under 30 feet: Lifting keel options

If you prefer a lifting keel boat around the 30ft mark, the Tony Castro-designed Parker 31 that was built by Parker Yachts between 1987 and 1993 is worth a look. For a high performance yacht, it offers good accommodation with double berth cabins in the forepeak and aft as well as a spacious heads.

Its vertically lifting keel has a wide wing at its base giving a low centre of gravity, a ballast ratio of 32.86% and a draught of 2ft (keel up) and 6ft (keel down). Yachting Monthly said ‘… the performance and handling are remarkable. She is very fast, unexpectedly stable and finger light on the tiller.’ The drawback is that Parker only built 30 before introducing the larger 325 and 335 models then ceased trading in 2009.

The Dick Carter-designed Southerly 95 also offers variable draught, albeit in a heavier and less performance-oriented 31ft 7in cruiser. Its cast iron grounding plate and pivoting keel give a ballast ratio of 46% and a draught of 1ft 10in (keel up) and 5ft 2in (keel down).

So with its transom-mounted rudder and its keel lifted, the 95 is ideal for drying out in secluded creeks. Down below, it offers two berths in the forepeak, a U-shaped saloon settee (convertible to a double berth), an aft heads and aft quarter berth. Most unusually, it also has an inside wheel steering position in addition to a tiller in the cockpit. It was first built in 1980.

As a general rule however, any lifting keel system on an elderly yacht needs close inspection before buying. Whether it pivots, swings or moves vertically up and down it is prone to a lot more stress and strain than a fixed keel. It can also suffer from impact damage. A thorough survey is advisable.

Class association benefit

One big advantage of these British built yachts around 30ft is that almost all have active and helpful class associations. When you are considering the purchase of a yacht whose original builder is no longer active – as is sadly the case with all these British-built yachts – a well run association is a treasure trove of helpful information and advice.

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30 at a great . I am doing the usual pre-purchase inspections, surveys and checks prior to committing but I am finding it almost impossible to find anything online about this make? Does anyone have one or any about where I can find an owners group or forum for owners?

The looks like a ½ tonner but I am not sure if it is exactly the same or not? Link is here:



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has be a very successful yacht for a very long time. You could try emailing him with details of your intended .

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I did find a Holland 25 owners forum but no Holland 30 posts.

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it appears that Sharpen ran the production line for the Holland 25 x a few hundred . I cant find anything about Sharpen - has anyone heard of him? I am trying to find out about build methods and other owners. Appreciate your help!

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27 September 2013

Imp (holland 40).

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The framing of the mould for (photo courtesy Tad Belknap)
The space frame prior to being added into the completed hull of , at Kiwi Boats, Florida (photo courtesy Tad Belknap)
as she was about to leave the Kiwi Boats yard (photo courtesy Tad Belknap)
being mated with her keel (photo Tad Belknap/Facebook)
being launched at Snead Island Boat Works in Florida (photo courtesy Tad Belknap)

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demonstrating her downwind form during the 1977 Nassau Cup race with spinnaker and two staysails set (photo Eric Schweikardt)

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powers upwind during the 1979 Admiral's Cup (photo courtesy )
seen here just astern of the larger German yacht   during the 1977 Admiral's Cup (photo Facebook)
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First time to site! Very cool and I just printed another 100 books with added photos and corrections. I have only sold a handful to New Zealand, Australia and Hong Kong sailors so hope to tap into that. Mailing costs are expensive but that's the reality. I am happy to dedicate. Payment now is only thru PayPal and website is Http://www.implegend.com Thanks, Bill Barton

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Just purchased the book, highly recommend

Thanks Grande the best way for people to buy the book is imp legend . com all with no spaces! Today i had to jack the price of the book on Amazon as they won't help me with increasing the charge for shipping which has sky rocketed. Have about 50 books left from 4th printing. Best Bill Barton

I sailed on Imp for many years when the Sisk brothers (Dun Laoghaire/Ireland) bought her in the late 70's/early 80's. After that she went to Kinsale in Ireland.

Thanks Kevin, any good stories from those days?

I was one of the crew that built this boat in Plant City, Fl. I fiber-glassed the transom and batten sanded the hull.

Thanks for the info Wiley Widner, i will add your name if i do a 5th printing, i have about 25 books left of printing # 4...

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Holland 30 sail plans., adelaidesailing.

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I sail a Holland 30 in Adelaide, does anyone know how to find out what the correct sail plan is for a Holland 30. Even my sail maker has nothing on file. I found an article on 'Golden Shamrock' which gives overall foresail size & main size but not individual foresail sizes eg. No.1, No.2, etc. Regards to all fellow sailors Colin, Adelaide Sailing . Com.

LooseChange

Nsw, 2140 posts.

Could be a problem, exactly which 30' Holland is it? Ron Holland has about eight 30 footers listed on www.sailboatdata.com

Select to expand quote LooseChange said.. Could be a problem, exactly which 30' Holland is it? Ron Holland has about eight 30 footers listed on www.sailboatdata.com It is a mast head, single spreader rig with fixed backstay under full 2D commercial survey, built in Frankston Vic in 1984. It also has a large coachouse & narrow gunwals. There are images on my website, www.adelaidesailing.com Thanks for your interest.

VIC, 5814 posts

So basically this is a plug for your business I guess

The pictures on your page are not very helpful. you may need to do some measuring to determine your basic rig dimensions and then maybe try and compare on sailboatdata.com. After you have done that you may even consider a message to Ron Holland design in Canada for further assistance. Sorry I can't be more helpful but it could be any one of these ... or none of them RUSH 31 (JEANNEAU) 29.96' 1979 CAL 29.96' 1981 KIWI 30 30.00' 1976 GOLDEN SHAMROCK 30 30.00' 1976 ALOHA 30 30.00' 1986 NICHOLSON 1/2 TON 30.00' 1977 FAST 303 30.00' 1983 NICHOLSON 303 30.25' 1979 OMEGA 30 S

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It wouldn't be the; Rush 31; Fast 303; Nich 1/2 ton Nich 303; Cal They were all developments of the "Golden Jubilee" style which had a wider stern and were developed after Ron drew the famous 40 footer "Imp" with a similar stern. This was a 1977-78 or later set of designs. The Australian Holland 30 was originally built by Doug Sharpin of Yachting World in Melbourne; yours is the "Club" version with the larger cabin top which came out around 1980, I think. The Australian Holland 30 was a Golden Shamrock/Silver Shamrock style design, 1975 or 1976 vintage, which had a narrower stern than the slightly later designs I listed above. That could narrow the rig dimensions down. I'm not sure whether the Australian Holland 30s were Golden Shamrocks (the original design) or Silver Shamrocks which were basically the same boat but with more displacement and a bigger rig. Just to make things more confusing, the 1976 world half ton championship was won by Silver Shamrock (the individual boat, not the design type) which IIRC was a modified Golden Shamrock. However, why bother about the sizes that Holland drew up in 1976, for a racing version of your boat? He would have drawn the big headsails to the 150% overlap of the IOR rule (which is not a problem for you) and the smaller headsails would have been designed around the size and aspect ratio required by mid '70s cross-cut dacron technology, which you aren't restricted to. I seem to recall that the world title winning Silver Shamrock had quite a high clew on the No 1 and used barber haulers, which you probably won't use. That may underline why the use of the old dimensions may be irrelevant.

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Just to add to Chris's excellent response above, if your going to have new sails cut you are going to have to measure yourself or have your sailmaker measure. If your just after usable headsails for club racing or cruising then you will be far better of going for a furling headsail about number 2 size in a modern cloth and design. The headsails on racing Holland 30's, especially No 1's will be way too large and useable in limited wind ranges. I have several racing headsails on my Currawong that will probably not see the light of day again. It's a shame because they are just beautiful sails! What I did was measure my No2 headsail and sent the dimensions to Bull sails in Victoria. Tony Bull then designed a furling headsail and had the sail built in China. Check out his webpage.

Select to expand quote Ramona said.. Just to add to Chris's excellent response above, if your going to have new sails cut you are going to have to measure yourself or have your sailmaker measure. If your just after usable headsails for club racing or cruising then you will be far better of going for a furling headsail about number 2 size in a modern cloth and design. The headsails on racing Holland 30's, especially No 1's will be way too large and useable in limited wind ranges. I have several racing headsails on my Currawong that will probably not see the light of day again. It's a shame because they are just beautiful sails! What I did was measure my No2 headsail and sent the dimensions to Bull sails in Victoria. Tony Bull then designed a furling headsail and had the sail built in China. Check out his webpage. Thanks for the help guys & in reply to some comments, No this is not a plug, I tried to put a pic of the yacht on this forum but couldn't work out how to so included the web address so the images could be viewed. I have been sailing for 48 yrs so well versed in types of cloths & yes I know a no. 1 would be too big for most conditions so I had a 125% furling genoa cut with foam insert in the luff to reduce fullness when partialy reefed. The reason I am trying to find out the correct size for a no.1 is, each year I enter 'Guava' in the Adel - Lincoln yacht race & have suffered in light winds & just off the breeze so a ghoster would be great. But don't want the comment "Great race mate but I think your sails are oversize" & protest me. Just thought there would be a sail maker with a set of sail plans for a 1984 Holland 30 (yes, built in Frangston Vic.) It was also a Whitsundays rent a yacht, I bought her 10 years ago & have replaced the main & foresail. Thanks again I'll keep looking. I guess I could stick with the info on 'loose screw' who had 20.35 sq. mt foresail.

Colin, Was out on the river Monday and there was a visiting yacht. Twin spreader rigged Holland 30, name was similar to Guava too, should have made a note of the name. Owner was ashore so could not stop and chat. I would keep an eye on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-tri-rad-myl-kev-racing-genoa-bag-hanks-12-1-x11-7x-6-28m-usable-fair-ready-/301194687423?pt=AU_Boat_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46209a33bf Ask Alan what size you need. You have the necessary dimensions already and there are several other halftonners of the same era with the same dimensions. I have a light weight No1 brand new sail that's probably done one Hobart race and then probably only a few hours. There must be hundreds about collecting dust in sail rooms.

Select to expand quote adelaidesailing said.. Ramona said.. Just to add to Chris's excellent response above, if your going to have new sails cut you are going to have to measure yourself or have your sailmaker measure. If your just after usable headsails for club racing or cruising then you will be far better of going for a furling headsail about number 2 size in a modern cloth and design. The headsails on racing Holland 30's, especially No 1's will be way too large and useable in limited wind ranges. I have several racing headsails on my Currawong that will probably not see the light of day again. It's a shame because they are just beautiful sails! What I did was measure my No2 headsail and sent the dimensions to Bull sails in Victoria. Tony Bull then designed a furling headsail and had the sail built in China. Check out his webpage. The reason I am trying to find out the correct size for a no.1 is, each year I enter 'Guava' in the Adel - Lincoln yacht race & have suffered in light winds & just off the breeze so a ghoster would be great. But don't want the comment "Great race mate but I think your sails are oversize" & protest me. Well in that case it's simple - the IOR rule your boat was designed to assumed that the No 1 had a 150% LPG and (apart from a very small number of boats in the northern hemisphere) all boats followed that default. IOR boats were often modified, and the forestay attachment point on Holland 30s of various types does not appear to always be in the same position, therefore taking generic measurements off the web would be less accurate than just measuring your own boat and using that as the basis for the headsail size.

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1991 Holland 30

Lying : North Haven SA

Well loved and popular production GRP Yacht with lots of work re done or renewed!

Just had $18.5K (with receipts ) for a NEW NANNI Diesel (23.5 HP) 1/2 hour use!   Warranty transferable

Rigging renewed 2014,new furler 2019, new boom 2016.

Huge double V berth plus generaous quarter berth.

Many useful options and features : Hot/cold pressure water,2014 Parker 2 burner gas stove, boom tent,Autotiller pilot,Tac Tic log/sounder,new Porta Potti, folding propeller.

Excellent value at only $34.9K!

Berth also available for sale .

More Information : Rob Robinson 0404 697 697  38 South Boat Sales (SA) on the marina Nth Haven 5018.

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Price: SOLD
Price: SOLD
Brand: Holland
Model: 30
Length: 9.12 Meters
Year: 1991
Category: Cruising Yachts
Hull Type: GRP
Hull Style: Single
Power Type: Sail
Type Of Sales: Dealer
Engine Make: Nanni
Engine Type:
Condition: Used
State: South Australia
Suburb: NORTH HAVEN
Registration Number: YC266S
Share: Reasonable Offers Considered
Designer : Ron Holland
Builder : Mordiallic Yachts
Water (Potable) Capacity (l) : 150 l
Hull Construction Material : GRP
Hull Type : mono semi fin
Deck Construction Material : GRP
Country Origin : Australia
Length (m) : 9.12 m
Beam/Width (m) : 3.04 m
Draft (m) : 2 m
Displacement : 3.5 t
Colour : white
Engine 1
Engine Make: Nanni
Engine Hours: 1
Horse Power: 23.5
Fuel Type: Diesel
Drive Type: Inboard / Shaftdrive
Steering: tiller
Stroke: 4-Stroke
Fuel Capacity: 100
Propeller: Folding

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40 years of X-Yachts Holland & the Schuttrups family

When Rob Schuttrups saw an X-102 during a Scandinavian summer holiday 4 decades ago he instantly knew he had to have one. It wasn’t until wintertime that he found the time to visit the team at X-Yachts, where the address on the Marstrup Mollevej turned out to be a house with a medium-sized shed. Rob and his wife were invited for a coffee around the kitchen table – this was in the days when there was no office!

Later Niels Jeppesen called and persuaded Rob not only to buy an X-102 but also to take up the Dutch dealership, saying the dealership wouldn’t take up too much of his time. It took almost a year to sell the first X-Yachts in Holland, an X-79, but she was quickly followed by two X-402s – which were considered massive yachts in those days. The company grew quickly after that and within a few years, Rob’s order book was overflowing. Hard to guess the exact amount of sold boats, but our best guess is that Rob has sold around 250 new X-Yachts.

Rob is an expert racer as well as a very experienced cruiser sailor (including 7 Atlantic crossings). He has raced with the X-One ton boats, X-99 and X-35 one design classes with many successes, and cruised every holiday with his wife Marja and kids Nanno and Nikki on their X-102 and later X-332 in the South of France. Later they stepped up to an X-46 and then an X-50 to sail further offshore, including crossing the Atlantic. Once the second generation (more on that below) came into the office Rob and Marja got themselves an Xc 50 and sailed it from the Netherlands all the way to Puerto Rico.

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Nanno and Nikki both grew up with the X-Yachts brand, sailing on almost every model the yard has produced. Rob and Marja however always encouraged them to pursue their own interests. Nevertheless, they were pleasantly surprised when Nanno announced that he wanted to join the business after finishing his Masters’s Degree in Aerospace Engineering in 2007.

Since joining the business Nanno has raced a year with his own team on an Xp 33 and crossed the Atlantic 4 times, in his free time he is a keen Finn dinghy sailor.

Some years later, Nikki provided the next surprise as she also joined the company in 2012, after her Bachelor in Communications and some years at another company. Another lifelong X-Yachts sailor, also racking up 1 Atlantic crossing herself.

Nanno and Nikki took over the dealership with Nanno as director of sales and Nikki in charge of service and administration. They are now joined by their team technician Fabrizio and rigger Keesjan. Rob and Marja still frequently help at the office during busy times and with the boat shows.

“When we took over the business we were asked many times if it would be a good idea to have a business together with your brother/sister. We simply figured we knew each other very well and trusted one another.

Now 12 years later we can confirm we got it right and still enjoy working together and with the X-Yachts brand.”

After spending so much time in the office and working with X-Yachts of all types, do they still enjoy being onboard themselves? Absolutely! Nanno and Nikki currently own an X4.3 which they keep in the South of France and use for cruising with their own families. The passion for X-Yachts looks set to continue for many more years and perhaps the third generation will take over in 20 years…?

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The dealership has been based in Marina Muiderzand since 1991, just 20 minutes from Amsterdam. The set-up includes an office, a workshop, 5 moorings in front of the office, a 25 m. land dock for easy access to (pre-owned) yachts and an indoor storage hall for 6 yachts, sails and spare parts. We provide an all-around service for our X-Yachts clients, including winter storing between 25-30 yachts each year.

Our clients are all enthusiastic sailors, keen on having a yacht that sails well but who also place demand on good looks and a high level of quality. Since that is a combination that X-Yachts has specialized in over the years we can offer them just that. Meeting the needs of our clients, each with their own specific wishes and areas of interest makes the intriguing part of our business – particularly making sure we deliver the correct yacht in the correct specification for every client. Our own experience in both racing and (long-distance) cruising helps us and our clients to get it right.

We also notice that our clients very much appreciate the fact that we are a family business. We aren’t just selling yachts but we sell a way for our clients to enjoy themselves on the water, fulfilling long-awaited dreams. Sharing this passion for sailing gets their approval every time.

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