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rc boat v hull vs catamaran

RC V-HULLS (Moderate to drive / Turn in both directions)

The bow-to-stern wedge shape of a V boat hull knifes cleanly through waves rather than pounding, to deliver the smoothest ride in rough water. The better riding qualities are offset by added draft and less stability. Because it has more drag than a flat-bottom, the V-hull also requires more power to reach the same speed. Shop all of Pro Boat’s RC V-Hulls here .

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RC CATAMARANS (Easiest to drive / Turn in both directions)

Catamarans have been riding the water longer than most other boat hulls. They fill a small niche in America but are more common in other parts of the world. Using two hulls bridged by a deck, the catamaran design increases beam for greater stability along with more speed. Compared to similarly sized monohulls, catamarans also usually have a shallower draft and require smaller engines. Shop all of Pro Boat’s RC Catamarans here .

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RC HYDROPLANES (Most difficult to drive / Only right turns)

Hydroplane hulls have a distinctive three-point design that uses the water for lift, rather than buoyancy, along with propulsion and steering. When at speed, hydroplanes touch the water at three points — at the rear of the two front sponsons and at the propeller location. The only parts of the hull generally in contact with the water are “runners” under the sponsons and “shoes” at the rear of the boat. Shop all of Pro Boat’s RC Hydroplanes here .

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Catamaran Versus V-Hull: Which Rides Better?

  • By Kevin Falvey
  • Updated: December 2, 2004

Catamaran Versus V-Hull: Which Rides Better?

The controversy rages in dockside watering holes, tackle shops, and Internet chat rooms: Which rides better-a catamaran or a V-hull? So far, all the talk has been purely subjective: A cat feels like this, a V-hull feels like that. To us, that’s useless. At Boating Magazine, we need hard numbers, things that we can quantify, then we’ll decide. So we took a Regulator 26, which just might be the best-riding V-hull for its size, and a Glacier Bay 260 Canyon Runner, one of the best-riding cats, and wired them with expensive sensing gear. Rather than a match between two specific boats, it would be a comparison of the finest qualities of each type. We expected the cat to be smoother when the going got rough, but what about the other times? Is it the most comfortable all-around boat? It took us a year-that’s right, one full year-to compile and understand the data, but here, finally, is the answer.

Measured Madness Our first problem was how to quantify a boat’s motion underway. The best tool we came up with is an accelerometer, which records changes and degrees of motion. We also had electronic gear to measure the boats’ angles, WAAS-enabled GPS units, rangefinders to measure distances, four laptops, stopwatches, plumb bobs, measuring tapes, and eventually, a collection of soggy notebooks.

To help us make sense of what we compiled, and back up our conclusions, we enlisted two top naval architects. So we’d like to thank Rick Strand, president of Strand Technologies, a consultant to companies such as Tillotson-Pearson, Boston Whaler, and Brunswick; and John H. Deknatel, president of the legendary design firm C. Raymond Hunt Associates.

With their help, the evidence became clear. What we discovered should silence the know-it-alls and may surprise the enlightened. Without question, we’ve killed the controversy. The boat type with the most comfortable ride is…

Not so fast-to understand our answer, you need to know how we approached the question.

Three Easy Pieces First, we wanted to measure how differently cats and V-hulls turn. To do this, we set up a buoy and had each boat make the tightest 180-degree turn it could at 30 mph. The diameter of each boat’s turn was about the same, although the V-hull averaged 8.4 seconds compared to the cat’s 8.9 seconds. The important difference, however, was how each banked in the turn.

Our electronic angle indicator showed the cat leaning outward by 26 degrees. The unit may have been over-reading due to outward force, but none of the techies from the indicator’s company could confirm this and they therefore stand by its number. By any measure, the cat did lean outward at a steep angle, which can be disconcerting to say the least. Loose gear slides more when a boat leans opposite the turn, and the push that occurs at the apex can make you feel as if you’re going to be thrown out. Of course, with time, you can get used to this. Furthermore, the lean can be minimized by trimming up the outboard engine and trimming down the inboard.

In contrast, the V-hull banked inward by 10 degrees. This not only feels natural, it also has a practical advantage. Centrifugal force pins you and your deck gear into the boat, and you need no special trimming techniques-just turn the wheel.

Both boats are designed for fishing, so our second test was to see how each fared while drifting.

To start, we measured each boat’s roll period-how long it takes to roll all the way to one side and back again. Too short a roll period foretells a jerky motion at sea, too long may mean there’s not enough initial stability. The cat’s period was 2.2 seconds. The V-hull’s was 2.4 seconds, almost 10 percent slower-which in this case is good.

Given our experience with a cat’s less-than-gentle motion at drift, we expected its period to be a lot shorter than the V-hull’s. In hopes of explaining this, we headed out into the ocean.

After the two boats took their natural drift angle in four-foot waves, we looked at the mean G forces each experienced. The cat showed 0.92 Gs, and the V-hull showed 1.18 Gs. So the cat is more comfortable, right?

Not quite. On average, it took the cat 1.15 seconds to reach those Gs, whereas it took the V-hull a little longer at 1.17 seconds. That is, the V-hull accelerated 2 percent slower than the cat. And, as we’ll get into later, slower accelerations equal more comfort.

The results from the accelerometer confirm our roll period tests. The cat, with its greater initial stability, resists rolling. When you stand on its rail at the dock, you notice it hardly leans at all. Most folks think this stability makes for a better boat offshore. But that same resistance to listing at the dock causes a cat to follow the contour of the waves while drifting. The steeper the wave face, the more the cat leans over.

The V-hull has less initial stability, so it gives a bit to your weight at the dock-and to oncoming waves. Its ability to roll easier means it’s not forced to follow the contour of the wave. Instead, as a wave approaches, the boat leans toward it, levels out at the crest, and then leans back into the retreating wave on the way down. In this way, it’s trying to remain level, rather than trying to conform to the angle of the water it’s floating in.

Our third test was to see how smooth each boat ran on a “perfect” boating day, one with a small one-to-two-foot chop on an open bay and a 10-mph breeze. We ran the boats side by side, and the differences shown on the accelerometer were negligible.

So far, after three tests, the V-hull had come out on top in two, and both boats were about equal in one.

We Take It Outside “But what about how they ride when it’s rough?” we hear you ask. “That’s what we really want to know.” And we plan to tell you. But our contention is that there’s more to boating-and enjoying it-than this one element. Unfortunately, and unfairly, bar talk often centers around this, so here we go.

We chose a day when the waves were four to five feet with a six-second period-your typical “rough day.” We ran the boats 100 feet apart at 29 mph directly into the waves. It didn’t matter which boat we were in, it was uncomfortable. Anyone but a masochist would slow down or change course, but we’re here for science.

The graphs on page 86 (see “Graphic Violence”) represent the two boats hitting the same wave. Sharp readers will note that the impacts shown for the two do not exactly coincide. The time each boat hits a wave varies, and a given wave isn’t consistent in shape over its length. Since the boats couldn’t be tied abreast of each other, this is the best anyone can do.

We made numerous runs. For statistical accuracy, we examined seven individual waves for each boat and on each run.

Before giving you the numbers, let’s just say that our accelerometer numbers are dead accurate. But on test day the time between entering a wave, bottoming out, and leaving the wave occurred in less than 0.3 seconds-which is not uncommon. According to Deknatel, “That’s too short a time for your body and brain to process the full effect of the event.” The accelerometer, however, is capable of measuring what we can’t feel.

To accurately compare the ride for a real human, not the machine, you need to look at more than just the peaks of the graph (maximum G force). You need to look at the steepness of the graph’s slope (the time it takes to reach that force), too. A boat that develops more Gs doesn’t necessarily mean it has a harsher ride. It depends on how fast that force is applied. For example, if your 250-pound buddy gently leans on you, what you feel is different than if he were to hit you with a running tackle.

The curve for the cat peaks at 3 Gs; the V-hull, on the other hand, peaks at 4, meaning the cat has 25 percent less gravitational force.

We can also see that the cat consistently decelerated slower when it hit the wave than the V-hull did. It had an average deceleration of 0.287 seconds, compared to the V-hull’s 0.081 seconds-which is 3.5 times faster.

The cat not only landed with less force, it decelerated slower as well. The two combined say it has the more comfortable head-sea ride.

Our test day was rough, so much so that our testers were hard-pressed to say from their gut which rode softer. But, again, the machine is more sensitive than any human, and numbers don’t lie: The cat’s numbers were clearly better.

Later tests also showed the cat delivered lower Gs and slower decelerations while running downsea, in quartering seas, and in the trough. So it’s the most comfortable boat right? Well, not so fast.

Rough Guide We weren’t through testing yet-although some tests were hardly high science.

For example, to see how wet riding each hull was, we taped paper towels to the front of the console. Cats often “sneeze,” or throw a fine mist on certain headings. In this case, and even in the test day’s rough conditions, both sets of towels came back dry.

Then there were issues we couldn’t quantify, such as how a V-hull can dig in its bow going downsea to occasionally make steering difficult, or how in quartering seas a cat’s two hulls catch at different times, requiring constant small steering adjustments.

And there were things that we didn’t have time to test, such as the effect of weight. Typically, a V-hull rides better as it gets loaded down with gear and fuel, which is just the opposite of a cat. Also, our offshore tests were on closely spaced waves. On widely spaced rollers, where boats become airborne, the results would have been different.

In the end, for many boaters, especially those who seem to spend more time in gin mills and chat rooms than on the water, ride quality simply means how softly a boat handles head seas. By that standard, as measured by our accelerometers, and in our test conditions, the cat was the clear winner.

But ask yourself, how often do you go out in weather like that? To make the results of our tests worthwhile for you, ask yourself, “Which boat rides better in the conditions I expect to meet?”

For example, if you have to run far and fast to get to an offshore fishing ground, the cat is a better choice. If you fish close to home, and drift or troll more than flat-out running, the V-hull would be better.

Take all our tests into consideration, and the boat you buy will be the right boat-your Mr. Smoothie.

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Select the right hull.

Tony Phalen June 6, 2014 How Tos 929 Views

Which is Best for You?

Let us start with the body of water you will be running on. Most racers like myself tend to stay away from free flowing or very large bodies of water, but with the proper hull, speed and power system one can run their boat quite confidently on large bodies of water. Large bodies of water can build large swells and upset the fun you could be having with your boat. The ideal body of water is one that is protected from winds as well as having a good area from which to launch and retrieve your boat safely. It is extremely important that when running your boat, swimmers and full-scale boats are not in the immediate running area.

RC boats come in a variety of sizes, power systems and hull styles. For this article, we will identify a few hull types.

HYDROPLANES Hydroplanes come in both full body hulls as well as outrigger hulls. Here we will touch on the major differences between them.

TO SUM IT UP Hydroplanes: Although the fastest hull design, they are limited to smooth water and only turn well one direction.

Monoplanes: The typical mono is not as fast as a hydroplane, but can operate on rougher water better than other hull types and also turn quite well in either direction.

Catamarans: Scale looks and aggressive steering are trademarks of a well designed and tuned RC cat. This hull style turns well both right and left and can reach fantastic speeds.

Tunnel Hulls: The tunnel hull is simpler to build and setup with speeds that are slightly slower than the other hull types, but the feeling of flying the boat across the water is hard to deny.

WRAP UP Selecting a hull style is largely based on what you like in the appearance of a boat. When deciding on a RC boat, take some time to see what model boating activity might be in your area. Also see if there is a local club and check out what hull styles they might be running. And remember, RC boating is best shared with friends!

Words by Mike Zaborowski

COMMENTS

  1. What boat should i get? Deep v or catamaran - RC Groups

    Size of the hull is an important factor if your side is on the choppy side-- the larger the hull the better for chop (~30" or more). Another idea is a boat with a flood chamber. If you look at ATR vs. RTR there are some nice options.

  2. catamaran vs monohull - RC Talk Forum

    You can divide almost all performance boats into one of three categories: deep-V monohull, catamaran (cat), and hydroplane (hydro). Technically, a cat and its smaller cousin, the tunnel hull, are types of hydro, but for our purposes, we’ll talk about them separately because they look and handle very differently.

  3. Learn About the Different RC Boat Hull Types in our Guide ...

    Using two hulls bridged by a deck, the catamaran design increases beam for greater stability along with more speed. Compared to similarly sized monohulls, catamarans also usually have a shallower draft and require smaller engines. Shop all of Pro Boat’s RC Catamarans here.

  4. Catamaran Versus V-Hull: Which Rides Better? | Boating Mag

    A year's worth of testing to determine whether a V-hull or catamaran rides smoother.

  5. Traxxas Spartan vs Traxxas M41 widebody Catamaran - YouTube

    The video compares Traxxas Spartan and Traxxas M41 widebody Catamaran. Both boats are 6s and have the same power system. Spartan is a v-hull and M41 is a catamaran. Spartan is faster but M41 is...

  6. Select the Right Hull - RC Boat Magazine

    Most RC catamaran hulls are based on the looks of full-scale catamarans. Performance is no less spectacular as they too can reach great speeds. Cats, like hydros, are also air suspended hulls, but the main difference is the length of the sponsons.