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Rigging for Phantom Sailboat- Thread starter bullethead08
- Start date May 4, 2011
bullethead08Howdy, I'm looking for some information on the proper rigging for a Howmar Phantom Sailboat...think sunfish on steroids. Anything I can get would be very helpful. Thanks Seaman ApprenticeRe: Rigging for Phantom Sailboat I have one of these; seems to be rigged like a Sunfish. Short traveler bridle (with a ring on the line) runs from side to side thru holes in the aft deck (knots underneath). Mainsheet attaches to that bridle ring, through pulley at end of boom, through loop on boom, thru boom pulley over cockpit, and down and out thru the rotating mainsheet cleat. Mainsheet should be long enough to allow boom to swivel to point directly forward and still have line in cleat. Top spar has a halyard run up through slot in top of mast and down to bullseye on deck, and led to cleat. Line should be long enough to allow spar to lie on deck and still reach cleat. There is a downhaul line attached to mast ring on boom, this goes down to a loop on the mast (mast has to be slid into the boom ring top first, and then placed into the socket in the deck). I haven't found this downhaul to be very critical to performance; I belive I have a pulley on mine but seldom rig it for 2:1 purchase. A bungee cord from the top of the daggerboard to the handle on the bow; short enough to be under tension, is needed to hold the board up downwind and in shallow water. Hope this helps. Pretty simple rig. Re: Rigging for Phantom Sailboat Not sure but have used this site several times http://sailingtexas.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=repairs&action=display&thread=182 bullethead08 said: Howdy, I'm looking for some information on the proper rigging for a Howmar Phantom Sailboat...think sunfish on steroids. Anything I can get would be very helpful. Thanks Click to expand... LARSBOOT said: It's a little late, but I have a 4 page instruction sheet on rigging Phantoms. Click to expand... Re: Rigging for Phantom Sailboat Here are two documents on rigging. Hope this helps. AttachmentsLARSBOOT said: Re: Rigging for Phantom Sailboat Here are two documents on rigging. Hope this helps. Click to expand... - Forum Listing
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Howmar Hauler 8 - Sailing DingyWith my recent sailboat purchase I acquired a Howmar Hauler 8, Sailing Dinghy. It is sound and will be an adequate dinghy, however, it is missing most of what is needed to sail. And as if I do not have enough to do with the larger boat, I would like to get the Dingy in sailing shape also. Does anyone have the specifications, drawings or some other info on the sizes, materials, etc of the: Rudder/Tiller Mast - most likely 2 pieces Sail - I found that it is 35 sf - so the dimension may be around 7' x 10' Boom and Gooseneck It seems Howmar, formerly of Edision, New Jersey, is out of business and I cannot seem to find the dimensions for these items on line. Thanks, If you don't have any luck here, you might be able to get info from these folks: Harlem Yacht Club - Club Boat Program jimgo said: If you don't have any luck here, you might be able to get info from these folks: Harlem Yacht Club - Club Boat Program [/QAnyw Jimgo, HYC responded to my email by saying they could not provide drawings or dimensions, but if I am in the area I am welcome to come by and take measurements myself. Thanks anyway for the lead, they apparently have several of these dinghies rigged to sail. I have found a photo on line and have made an attempt to scale and created drawings with dimensions of the parts I need. If anyone out there wants these drawings you can come by and use my plans and draw them yourself.....just kidding. Really, if anyone out there is looking for dimensions for the CB/Seat, Rudder, Sail, Mast and Boom I would be more than happy to email what I came up with. Click to expand... I've seen a number of people get dinghies like this sailing again by using windsurfing sails. They are about the right size and adapt fairly easily. You would likely lose the two part mast feature though. My Dyer Dhow Midget has about the same size sail. The sail is 10x7ft as you predicted: Dyer Midget Sailboat SailPlan Data and Sail Quoting System I could take good measurements of the sailing rig if you thought that would be helpful. It sounds like your boat is quite similar to my Midget. Sailritesails sells a kit sail for my DD Midget for under $200, or a completed sail for $350. Here's a longshot for you to try. I have a Howmar Phantom. I'm not familiar with the Howmar Hauler, but maybe it shares some of the same parts with the Phantom. The Phantom has been reincarnated as the Pointer 14 and is manufactured by these guys . Since they might have purchased Howmar's molds and other assets, maybe they know something about the specs for the Hauler. It might be worth a phone call. Re: Howmar Hauler 8 - Sailing Dinghy Point Marine responded and they have information on three Howmar boats: Phathom, Howmar 12 and 15. They do not have the 8 though. Close, right? By the way I found that the Howmar 12 is a Sparkman and Stephens design. That one has tons of information out there. As for my progress I finished the scaled drawings and now can go shopping for substitutes or start making some of the pieces. We have a good Marine consignment store in Annapolis. It will be fun to rummage through their backroom knowing the approximate dimensions of the missing pieces. Thanks again for the suggestion. Thanks. I think I will make the sail using SailRite. I was able to scale a photo and I think I got most of the dimensions. Thanks for your suggestions. That stinks. I don't have a reason to be in New York or near City Island any time soon, or I'd offer to swing by and trace the shape of the rudder onto some paper for you. I wonder if there's anyone else in the area who might be able to stop by. BTW, I really like your "big" boat - those Contests are very nice! There was a guy selling one in NJ last fall, and it was always JUST outside my budget. Then, when I finally had the money for it, it had been sold. Oh well! If it were me, I would keep it simple, and just find a used sunfish (or other dinghy) rig. Then you would have mast, boom, sail, and rigging without having to gather all of the parts. OTOH, if you want a project, go for it. Re: Howmar Hauler 8 - Sailing Dinghy BTW, I really like your "big" boat - those Contests are very nice! There was a guy selling one in NJ last fall, and it was always JUST outside my budget. Then, when I finally had the money for it, it had been sold. Oh well![/QUOTE] If you are ever in the Middle River area let me know and if I am down there, we can take her out for a sail. We have enjoyed learning about her and sailing on most weekends during the season. Still needs some cosmetic fixes but appears to be sound. That would be great, thanks! Re: Howmar Hauler 8 - Sailing Dinghy Here are the estimated measurements that I came up with for the Sail, Mast, Boom, Rudder and CB/Seat. If anyone that has these items sees a mistake, post it here and I will make the corrections. AttachmentsHello, I own a Howmar Hauler 8. My father bought it new in 1981. I have the sailing kit with rudder, etc. I am actually looking for a new hull for it, as mine is rather beat up. If I find one, I may be able to provide you with the sailing set up as I may have two by then. Let me know if you have other questions. I have it on davits on my sailboat in Solomons, MD. Charles "Rampant" CN38 Rampant, Hello my name is Al. I saw this post and am very excited to hear back from you. I just purchased a 8' Hauler and am looking to make a rudder and center board for it. I was hoping I could get you to send me a few pics of yours. I have not been able to find one online to go by. My email address is al.robertswcs at yahoo.com[/email]. Thank you RJB766 said: With my recent sailboat purchase I acquired a Howmar Hauler 8, Sailing Dinghy. It is sound and will be an adequate dinghy, however, it is missing most of what is needed to sail. And as if I do not have enough to do with the larger boat, I would like to get the Dingy in sailing shape also. Does anyone have the specifications, drawings or some other info on the sizes, materials, etc of the: Rudder/Tiller Mast - most likely 2 pieces Sail - I found that it is 35 sf - so the dimension may be around 7' x 10' Boom and Gooseneck It seems Howmar, formerly of Edision, New Jersey, is out of business and I cannot seem to find the dimensions for these items on line. Thanks, Click to expand... Top Contributors this Month |
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The Howmar 12 is a recreational sailboat, built predominantly of fiberglass, with wood trim and foam flotation. It has a fractional sloop with anodized aluminum spars and a loose-footed mainsail, with an adjustable outhaul. The hull features a nearly plumb stem, a vertical transom, a transom-hung rudder controlled by a tiller and a retractable ...
A boat with a BN of 1.6 or greater is a boat that will be reefed often in offshore cruising. Derek Harvey, "Multihulls for Cruising and Racing", International Marine, Camden, Maine, 1991, states that a BN of 1 is generally accepted as the dividing line between so-called slow and fast multihulls.
Howmar 12 is a 12′ 2″ / 3.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Craig V. Walters and Sparkman & Stephens and built by Howmar Boats Inc. starting in 1983. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the ...
Before founding Howmar Boats, Jack Howie had spent many years in the industry and had previously been president of O'Day Corp. as well as AMF/Alcort. ... Sailboats Built By Howmar Boats Inc. (Dates indicate when boat was first built by any builder) ... HOWMAR 12: 12.17 ft / 3.71 m: 1983: PHANTOM 14 (HOWMAR) 14.21 ft / 4.33 m: 1977: ShipCanvas ...
12.2'. '. '. Florida. $1,700. Description: A small, but very stable 12 ft sailboat that has been recently repainted and looks incredible. The trailer has also been repainted. It quickly gets up to top speed even in light wind and has carried up to four passengers. very easy yet fun to sail and comes off the trailer into the water ready to sail ...
Looks like a fun little daysailer. I also found a Catalina expo 12 as well. It's much newer and has a roller furling sail where as the homar has a lateen sail. The two boats are quite different. The Howmar seems a bit more substantial, with higher freeboard and more comfortable seating. The Catalina looks more like a beach toy.
just looking for general thoughts on the boat. Well, it was designed by Sparkman & Stephens, which is the most reputable yacht design firm of the 20th century, so that's certainly a plus. It will be a HUGE improvement over your Snark, which is basically a beer cooler that's shaped like a boat. Haha, yea the Snark isn't exactly setting the world ...
This Howmar Howmar 12 sailboat has a fiberglass hull and an LOA of 12.17 feet (length over all). The boat has a 50 inch beam. This sailboat is set up to sail as a Sloop. The craft has 90 square feet of sail area. The draft of this sailboat is approximately 2'6". (For those brand new to sailing, draft is important to remember since you can run ...
The 1983 Howmar Howmar 12 sailboat has a fiberglass hull and has an overall length of 12.17 feet (sometimes referred to as LOA). The width (or beam) of this craft is 50 inches. This boat is rigged as a Sloop. The sail area for the sailboat is 90 square feet. The draft of this sailboat is approximately 2'6".
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . 1982 Howmar 12 Length: 12 ft. 2 in. Beam: 5 ft Draft: 2 ft. 6 in. Weight: 160 lbs. Sail area: Main, 60 sq. ft. (luff 16 ft, leech 17 ft, foot 6 ft 8 in) Jib, 30 sq. ft. (luff 10 ft 8 in, leech 12 ft, foot 5) Hull: Fiber-reinforced plastic
Before founding Howmar Boats, Jack Howie had spent many years in the industry and had previously been president of O'Day Corp. as well as AMF/Alcort. Howmar Boats Inc. 983 New Durham Rd. Edison, NJ USA The New Howmar Boats Corp. 85 Prospect Aveue Hartford, CT. USA (no longer in business)
The Phantom 14 gudgeon has an inside dimension of about 3 5/16 inches. That means that it is a full 1/2 inch smaller even without the washers. I have ordered a Sunfish gudgeon, and hope to be able to drill it to accept the Phantom 14 bolt pattern so that the hull will not have to be modified. Sep 2, 2009.
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I found a Howmar 12 in rough shape. I've been cleaning and patching the hull and so far it looks like it'll be able to float. Only problem is I'm missing a rudder, mast, boom, sails, and rigging. It's my understanding that only 200 of these were built so I'm thinking I might not have a lot of luck finding these.
This is our first sail on our Howmar sailboat. I was told by the gentleman that I originally bought it from that it is a Howmar 13 but it measures only 12ft....
A small, but very stable 12 ft sailboat that has been recently cleaned and looks incredible. It quickly gets up to top speed even in light wind and may carry up to four passengers. ... Howmar Howmar 12 Sailboat . vtsmallboat6 (11) 100% positive; Seller's other items Seller's other items; Contact seller; US $1,800.00. No Interest if paid in full ...
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Joined. Aug 30, 2007. Messages. 39. May 6, 2011. #2. Re: Rigging for Phantom Sailboat. I have one of these; seems to be rigged like a Sunfish. Short traveler bridle (with a ring on the line) runs from side to side thru holes in the aft deck (knots underneath).
This Howmar 12 comes with trailer boat and mast. No sails or rudder. The boat is 12 foot 2 inches long and has a center daggerboard. Carrollton, GA. Location is approximate. Message. Property for Rent. See all. $682. 2 Beds 2 Baths - House. Dewey, OK. $39,000. 1 Bed 1 Bath - House. Jay, OK. $950.
17 posts · Joined 2012. #1 · Apr 30, 2013 (Edited) With my recent sailboat purchase I acquired a Howmar Hauler 8, Sailing Dinghy. It is sound and will be an adequate dinghy, however, it is missing most of what is needed to sail. And as if I do not have enough to do with the larger boat, I would like to get the Dingy in sailing shape also.