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Cascade 36' -- AdviceI've spotted myself a Cascade 36' that I'm interested in purchasing. I believe that this boat is capable of a transatlantic or circumnavigation voyage, but I'd like your opinions. If your a Cascade owner is there any advice that you would give to someone planning to take this sailboat out to sea? I like Cascades, and I've looked at quite a few of them over the years. I'm not a Cascade owner, but I've come close. They are a narrow, sea worthy design, but they can vary in quality a great deal because so many were owner finished or had unusual decisions made during the completion process. The hulls have a good rep for being strong, and I've seen pristine and well-thought-out interiors, but I've also seen really poor interiors, exposed plywood, bizarre choices... Compared to a boat like a Pacific Seacraft or Islander 36, there's going to be a lot more latitude in quality, and you'd need a really good surveyor to separate a pearl from the rough. (Don't forget a rigging specialist, and perhaps a mechanical specialist.) They have gone long range, but you might be able to score a 42 footer at not much more than a 36, and have more space and a bit more speed. A comparable boat is a Spencer 42. Good luck! Hey, Free to Sail, Great to see someone your age pursuing such a wonderful dream. I have no first hand Cascade experience, but I know that several have circumnavigated. One noteable example being Jim and Molly Moore's voyage on Swan. If you haven't yet, get your hands on 'By Way of the Wind' Jim's book. He and his wife circumnavigated and then some in a Cascade 36.....It's a great read, very pragmatic, he proves that any can do it provided they have common sense, determination and a good sense of humour.... Jim Moore is to me somewhat of a cruising legend. Best of luck with your dream man, stay focused and do the hard work to make it happen. I really hope it works out for you. Cheers, Craig My sense of the Cascade is that they were an older, simpler, cruder design. While they seem to have a strong following, the couple that I have come across have been strangely 'customized' in ways that seemingly make little sense (big doghouses, and crude bowsprits). These were a decent design for thier day, but thier day was 40 plus years ago. A huge amount has been learned about designing seaworthy, seakindly, well mannered, designs in the period since. When I look at the design, they are a pretty typical mid-1960's early fin keel design. This was after all the design era that gave fin keel/spade rudders a bad name. In any event, a number of these have allegedly been used for distance voyaging. In my mind this is a poster child for the issue of whether a boat that has done a circumnavigation is a good choice for someone else looking to make a distance voyage. The answer is a resounding "not necessarily". In reality a very knowledgable, lucky, and skilled sailor can get by, voyaging all over the place, with a less than ideal boat. It has happened and continues to happen. But for us mere mortals, the decisions come down to how much risk are we willing to take. And at this point it is not all that cut and dry. Obviously, for some folks there are the bulletproof, go-anywhere cruisers out there. They are mostly too expensive and carry other big compromises that place them out of bounds for most folks. At the other end of the spectrum there are the 'go with what ya have' crowd. For most of us the answer is to find a solid mddle ground and I am not sure that a 30 plus year old boat from a forty year old design, mediocre coastal/racer-cruiser is close enough to a reasonable middle ground for someone aspiring to a circumnavigation with six people. Respectfully, Jeff Cascade 36 available If anyone is still checking this thread perhaps you'd care to offer an opinion about purchasing this boat as a voyager. Your input will be appreciated. OS 36 ft cascade sloop, refit, diesel repower Date: 2010-06-27, 9:04AM classic world cruising proven design, this one a Hawaii veteran 36 ft Cascade that is handlaid highest quality FG hull and deck construction See Cascade story website on history of these boats Fast and extremely strong construction Recent professionally built beautiful Alaskan Yellow cedar T and g interior including headliner and galley last year repowered with perkins 4 108 48 hp diesel,. Rewired with new interior lighting and nav lights recent deck paint and varnish. 3 replaced SS opening ports and salon hatch added. windlass and cqr anchor Teak rubrail 3 jibs, spinnaker and mainsail Great liveaboard Do your research on these boats This is at the low end of their price, with a one of a kind light warm crafted interior , and 48 hp diesel.Priced below market to sell. documented vessel Guys I looked at a Cascade 36 today which was one of the "owner will finish" models, and no matter how bulletproof the hull or how few hours may be on the diesel it will never have the appeal of an interior that was done by a shipwright or cabinet maker. Not the right boat for me, although on the good side, I'm 6-0" and had plenty of headroom. As I said, the boat was sold without an interior and although it's being improved upon by it's 3rd owner who is pretty handy with tools it will be a non-starter for me. Dang. Way too much work in and out. It the pitfall of boats from that era.....I have been having similar experiences looking at shipwright fitted vs owner fitted vessels of a simialr vintage llately, and even with the cost difference the owner fitted vessels just don't cut it I find. I keep trying to tell myself it would be a nice project but I think you would basically have to commit to a complete interior refit and that is no small matter. Can anyone suggest some good alternatives to a Cascade 36 to consider. Price is a big consideration. I'm looking for something blue water worthy with a fin keel. Cal 34,36 or the Cal 40. Ericson 35-2, possibly some of the Columbia boats. A lot of these will be easier to find on the west coast. Niagara 35 - the older, non-Encore interior is much better for offshore with four good sea berths. The Niagara does have a balsa cored hull so that is certainly the first thing I would check. What is your budget and where are you located? I think these are really neat boats... choey lee Boats For Sale Mick: I have always had mixed feelings about Cheoy Lee. I think thier boats always look solid but I their details always drive me crazy. Back in the 1980's I did some of the drafting on the Cheoy Lee Wittholz 53. WITTHOLZ 53 (CHEOY LEE) Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com This lists the design date as 1980, but the work I was doing was in 1982-83 so it may have been that I was only doing a revision to the sail plan, keel-rudder and interior layout. The lines drawings were in progress before I worked for Charlie. Jeff Must have been a revision, or they would've called her the Cheoy Lee Curmudgeon 53. lol...j/k lots of wood to maintian... and IIRC alot of the details as well as functional gear (winches) have that CL stamp, so if you wanna replace original stuff can be a PITA. I still think they do have a bit of a regal quality to them. nice work on the drafting board... for a Curmudgeon... Funny you should mention this. I was seriously considering a Cheoy Lee Offshore 31 as a project boat but couldn't figure an economical way to transport it from Florida where it was floating to Massachusetts. Then I heard they are really pokey which made me concerned about making my coastal cruising and day sails a drag. I liked the looks and the wood, though this one had a fiberglass cabin top with wood details rather than the whole wood cabin top. I saw one for sale in Maine in decent shape for $13k which seemed reasonable for this solid a boat. Anyone taken one of these offshore? The Ericson 35 MKII looks great. Nice interiors. Will check out the Cals wen I get a chance. Thanks. For anyone searching old threads for info on cascades...Cascade 36s were not designed as coastal cruisers or racers as stated by jeff h they were designed and built for circumnavigations. THey were billed as the affordable circumnavihator by csascade.High strength features added that you will not see on other boats You will not find a faster stronger built boat in this price range. Downsides include shallow bilge and buried chainplates. Ports may be lower quality plastic. I sailed mine half way around the world. A forgiving boat that self steers like a dream. Interior layout can be a pitfall but you are getting a fast circumnavigator for peanuts. This is a bluewater boat through and through. These boats are for sailing far. As for the comment that some of these boats have been allegedly used for distance cruising, see jim moores books about sailing on swan. Cascades are cruising all over the place happily and cheaply. Weirdo additions included a garage type thing on the stern that is as ugly as it is damn useful for cruising. (He method of layup on the deck typically results in almost no deck issues . Not one spot of softness on my deck after. 40 years. Impress the joneses with a hunter interior, sail the world in a cascade. If this thread has gotten anyones heart pounding, check out the attached. It's a donation so I imagine the price would be flexible. Harbour Yacht Sales Ltd. That one looks not bad, lotsa boat for the money! I have just bought a Cascade 36 hull # 8 and I am looking for advice on some how too's lol this seems to be a very good boat very solid and very affordable. if this is still active please message back I am looking to chat about this topic. I've got a good friend who has owned one for a few decades. I crewed on it from Tonga to Fiji to NZ and Hawaii, plus a few other places. Never let us down. If you message me your email address i'll send it to him. Can't promise he'll answer but will ask. Thank you so much My email address is top priority real estate @ gmail.com for some reason it wont let me put it as a link in here but if you take all the spaces out it should work lol .. thank you again! sure, I passed it on. Don't know if he'll contact you or not. Where are you? Since Cascades were built in Portland OR there are a bunch in that area. Rose City Yacht club has a few. That was the home port of Raindrop which won the Pacific Cup back a few years. I considered buying one as they are such a great deal. I think the value is hit hard by the fact that many were not finished very well below decks as they were kind of a "kit" boat. But I've seen some that are really very nice. Having made my sea bones on one leaves a special place in my heart. Also there is a premium boat works guy in the Portland area that has done mods on many Cascades, like extending the transom and dog houses. Tommy Becker. He does fantastic work. Thank you! I am located in Michigan the Tawas area i have recently purchased the boat from New Hampshire. The inside is amazing mahogany wood that is finished as beautiful as you can imagine. I will post some pictures on here. I am so great full that you have helped me find the right people Thank you so much! I have a 1980 Cascade 36. It is a fine ocean boat. We have won many offshore races. I moved the shrouds from the toe rail to the cabin to get a tighter jib sheet angle, so the boat points better. It is strong, dry and comfortable, a very strong boat. Top Contributors this Month |
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Posts: 93. Thoughts on this Cascade 29. As many of you know, I am in the market for my second boat. I came across this one today on craigslist. My research seems to show that these cascades if finished right, are great boats. This one looks to be a great boat. It says finished in 2002 but not sure when the hull was sold.
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, repairs, reviews, maintenance, and more! ... My favorite Cascade 29 circumnavigation site is Ed Hart's:
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, repairs, reviews, maintenance, and more! ... Its a Cascade 29, built in bullet proof glass in a hand layup process in 1964. (It really is bullet proof.
We are currently looking at a 29ft Cascade sailboat. It has a non working Volvo Diesel engine & a 9.9 Yamaha outboard that needs to be serviced (oil change, spark plugs replaced, carb cleaned). Comes with 4 solar panels & a 40lb anchor. The seller told us "the hulk is solid.
It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5
Re: 77 Cascade 29 New prop, $200-350 depending on the prop you got and if you could do the work yourself. If the boat is out of the water easier, in the water you need snorkeling gear or to pay for a haulout.
I just checked out a '68 Cascade 29' today and will hopefully be buying it soon. It need interior cushions, engine cover/stairs, some interior paint, sails, stove, fuel tank, and the engine hooked up (aligned, wired and plumbed). Also the main windows and dorade vents leak. the engine is a newer Kubota 3 cyl 20 horse
The Cascade 29 is a 29.0ft cutter designed by Robert A. Smith and built in fiberglass by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. since 1961. 355 units have been built. The Cascade 29 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Cascade 29 is about 132 kg/cm, alternatively 744 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 132 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 744 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Cascade 29 is a 29′ 0″ / 8.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Robert A. Smith and built by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. starting in 1961. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the ...
It's time to go Sailing! Take a look at this very well-kept 1972 Cascade 29 with a wooden boom roller furler! The shiny hull tells you what you need to know. From the bow to the stern Lazerete the cleanliness and superb fiberglass shine jumps out at you. As you step inside you can see the nicely polished wood that goes throughout the boat.
Are you looking for a classic and affordable sailboat that can handle any sea condition? The Cascade CS 29 is a proven bluewater cruiser with a spacious interior and a sturdy construction. Learn more about this model and how you can customize it to your needs at Cascade Yacht Works.
But by 1960, the 15th boat had been completed and sold. A new model, the CASCADE 29, designed by Robert A. Smith, formerly of Sparkman & Stephens, was introduced in 1961. By 1963, 48 CASCADE 29's and 34 CHINOOK 34's had been completed and sold. With the enterprise so firmly established, Wade Cornell, one of the original founders, resigned ...
87689 posts · Joined 1999. #1 · Jul 21, 2009. I have a Cascade 29 cutter that I love but the interior room is on the verge of cramped when the whole family is on the boat. I like the fact that the boat has a reputation as a rock solid blue water worthy cruiser but I want a little more head/elbow room. The bombay clipper is a boat that has ...
1 of 2. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of CASCADE 29. Built by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. and designed by Robert A. Smith, the boat was first built in 1961. It has a hull type of Fin w/bulb & spade rudder and LOA is 8.84.
Location: Seattle WA. Posts: 23. Cal 28 vs Cascade 29 vs Catalina 28. Ok, I've done a little research lately on different boats and which ones I think will provide the best boat for coastal cruising with a family of 3. We want to learn to sail with the boat we buy, spend about a year fixing and sailing around the pudget sound.
I know Cascade Yachts were built in Portland, OR and were the product of lead designer Robert Smith who took hull #1 and won his division in the Swiftsure Race. She handles well although has a rather narrow beam at 8.83ft. She's a Masthead Sloop. Fin w/spade rudder and displacement of 6,400 lbs. Any thoughts, feedback or anyone else with a ...
With used boat prices being at historic low, you might want to look at somewhat bigger boat. SC 28 is a much better boat for what you want to do, but if you factor in shipping cost, you might be better off buying a bigger boat closer to you. Bolted on cast iron keels on older boats, like on the Cascade, can be a royal PITA to prepare for ...
Cascade Yachts. Cascade Yachts was a pioneering U.S. -based builder of fiberglass monohull sloop-rigged sailboats ranging in sizes from 23 to 42 feet (13 m) in length. It was founded in 1954 in Portland, Oregon, by a group of local sailors interested in experimenting with fiberglass sailboat construction.
The 42, 36, and 29 Cascade were all designed by Robert A. Smith. He was a designer whom I understand was previously associated with Sparkman and Stephens. The hulls were all built at the Yacht Constructors yard in Portland, OR. Many were sold as kits so quality of the finish work can vary from boat to boat.
Cascade preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Cascade used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. Avoid Fraud. ... Sailboat Added 29-Feb-2020 More Details: cascade Yacht Constructors chinook 34: Length: 35' Beam: 9.8' Draft: 4.5' Year: 1965: Type: cruiser:
10188 posts · Joined 2011. #10 · Sep 1, 2019. Re: Just bought my first sailboat! 1980 Cascade 27'. It has been said that an old lady in a bath tub can make the trip from California to Hawaii and never even have to carry a GPS or navigate at all. Every twenty minutes there is a plane flying from the US to Hawaii, so all one must do is follow ...
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. ... #5 · Jun 29, 2010. Cascade 36 available ... Impress the joneses with a hunter interior, sail the world in a cascade. Save Share Reply Quote Like. SloopJonB. 13315 posts · Joined 2011 Add to quote; Only show this user ...